Hi!

Am 09.04.2013 um 17:22 schrieb François Lacombe 
<francois.laco...@telecom-bretagne.eu>:

> In my mind, define a role in a relation is mandatory but you say it's 
> definitely not right.

Roles can make sense. For example ways in a route relation may have the role 
forward or backward, if this specific way is only used in one direction. This 
is a property of the route and not of the way, therefore it is tagged as role 
in the relation.

A generator is different. It simply is a generator and its role within the 
plant is to be a generator. So there is no need to explicitly specify it.
Furthermore think of the consumers. Example: the process one feature of the 
plant. If the plant is described by a relation the consumers have two sources 
about the type of that feature: the tags on the feature and the relation. As 
the relation is not always present they will trust the tags on the feature and 
ignore the role in the relation. 


> I agree to say generator / substation and other roles are not relevant and 
> maybe redundant but they formalize association between features and power 
> plant, which features' tags (or plants' tags) won't do ever since they're 
> attached to objects, not to the link between objects.

Which association would they formalise? If a generator is part of a plant its 
function (aka role) is to work as generator. The association is created by 
adding the generator to the plant.


> To make proposal lighter I would consent to remove generator, substation 
> roles and most of the specific roles from non-enclosed power plants relations 
> (perimeter has already left the proposal as you maybe noticed).

I'm just curious about the perimeter: what would we do if a plant has multiple 
perimeters? How would we map them? 


> But that will allow mappers to use any values they want to use, not convince 
> them into letting the "role" field blank.

Does it matter? Besides some special roles defined by the proposal, what would 
a consumer do with an unknown role?


Best regards,
Martin
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