On 11/20/12 3:59 PM, Richard Welty wrote:

i think we need a separate emergency access category because there exist places where authorized
vehicles, mostly emergency responders of one type or another,
does anyone else who is not a troll have any comments?

my engagement with anthony has i think resulted in some improvements.

First, i've learned that when we tag U-turns as access=no or access=private, we're probably doing it wrong, and tagging them as access=emergency is a band aid, not a fix. we should probably allow it as a band aid, but see about switching to a
different approach.

specifically, no U-turn is the common signage in many jurisdictions, and that's a turn restriction, not an access restriction. in a perfect world, that's how we'd have
tagged all of these.

the actual language in the NYS vehicle code (Article 23, section 1104) is this:

   (b) The driver of an authorized emergency vehicle may:
   ...
   4.  Disregard  regulations governing directions of movement or turning
       in specified directions.

this has nothing to do with ignoring access=no or access=private, and everything
to do with ignoring turn restrictions and oneway indications when responding
to an emergency.

so my suggestion is:

access=emergency

for u-turns that are currently frequently marked private or no, as a temporary
expedient, and recommend in the section of the access page moving to no u-turn
turn restrictions in the long term.

i also recommend that access=emergency tags be deployed in association with
source:access tags that give the authority, e.g.

source:access=NYS VAT Article 23 Section 1104 (b) 4.

richard

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