Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Petr Morávek [Xificurk] wrote: >> On the other side of the spectrum is Potlach, which >> makes anything involving relations overly >> complicated. I've fixed my share of relation bugs, that I dare to say >> came from these poor editing capabilities. > > Wow. When was the last time you used Potlatch? 1873? > > To add a way to, say, a cycle route relation: > > 1. Click the tab with a picture of a bicycle > 2. Under National Cycle Route, click 'Add to a route' > 3. Choose the one you want and press 'Select' > > If that's overly complicated then I guess maybe we could look at sending a > holographic avatar round to the user's house to do it for them. I'm sure > ActionScript has an API for that somewhere. > > Richard
Hello Richard, I apologize if my words sounded harsh or offending. I admit that I'm not regular user of Potlach, so my knowledge of it is kind of limited. But I can see the mistakes other users do and well, guess, what was the underlying reason for them. I came across basically two categories of relation bugs caused by users using Potlach. 1) Pointless members of relations, e.g. a German train station added to the Czech administrative boundary relation. My guess is that the user mistyped the relation id when he/she wanted to add that station to some route relation. I have no idea, why he/she did not use the method, you've described, but it happens. 2) Generally broken relations, e.g. the user deleted a way that was part of large forest polygon, probably because the way itself had no tags. I presume this is caused by not very good visualization of relations in Potlach, thus most of the time users are simply unaware that they are breaking something. A simple task like seeing that the way/node is part of some relation requires a user to switch to Advanced mode and look at the list. If he wants to see the extent of the relation it's another two clicks away (menu for relation>select all members). If he wants to see what that relation is or edit it, its double-click away (from the Advanced mode). Please, don't take this the wrong way, I value the work you and others are doing on Potlach. I'm just pointing out a few flaws, that I spotted. Best regards, Petr Morávek
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