I agree with Martin.

We need to distinguish between the building=kiosk that is a one room solitary 
building, from the shop=kiosk activity because somewhere the kiosk moved from 
the solitary building to some windows in a bigger building.


Gianfra




> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 09:16:19 +0200
> From: dieterdre...@gmail.com
> To: tagging@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [Tagging] shop=kiosk
> 
> 2010/10/18 Noel David Torres Taño <env...@rolamasao.org>:
> > On Lunes 18 Octubre 2010 04:08:13 Richard Welty escribió:
> >> On 10/17/10 11:00 PM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
> >> > So, are you saying that a shop that was located in a kiosk building, but
> >> > sold merchandise other than "cigarettes, newspapers, sweets, snacks and
> >> > beverages" would have a tag building=kiosk, but would not have the tag
> >> > shop=kiosk?
> >>
> >> what of "kiosks" in malls selling cheap jewelry, watches, cell phones,
> >> etc.? do they not count?
> > If they do not sell "cigarettes, newspapers, sweets, snacks and beverages"
> > they are not shop=kiosk. They are shop=jewelry or shop=boutique or
> > shop=mobile_phone.
> 
> 
> which part of "cigarettes, newspapers, sweets, snacks and beverages"
> is obligatory, which isn't? What if they sell only newspapers and
> tickets for the public transport? I guess it's a newsagent then? What
> do they have to add to their offer in order to become an OSM kiosk?
> 
> Around here there are lots of kiosks (the building type) that only
> sell flowers, or books, or newspapers, or food. These are all _OR_s.
> They do IMHO qualify to be called kiosk in natural language. There is
> almost none of them that sells cigarettes though (local cultural
> habits).
> 
> To the typology: kiosks are traditionally freestanding small
> solitaires, but in some regions the meaning of kiosk evolved and now
> is applicable also to shops selling through a hole in the wall (the
> examples given above by Peter). Still this doesn't mean that any shop
> selling cigarettes and newspapers will qualify for kiosk: this is
> still about typology (and in this I disagree with Ulf's definition
> that kiosk has nothing to do with typology: it is a word for 2 similar
> kinds of typology (or better one which is selling through a window
> which is common to both subtypes).
> 
> cheers,
> Martin
> 
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