On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:00 AM, James Livingston <doc...@mac.com> wrote:
>> So there is a distinction, but it can probably be achieved by using 
>> bicycle=no for situations where riding is not allowed, and 
>> access=private+foot=permissive for situations where bicycles aren't allowed.
>
> That sounds reasonable to me. If everyone like that, is it worth putting on 
> the 'access' wiki page as an example for how to tag something not completely 
> obvious?

Documenting decisions like this is definitely the right thing to do,
but I'm not sure "access=private, foot=permissive" screams "bikes are
not allowed, even when pushed" to me. The situation where bikes aren't
allowed *at all* is pretty rare. Even in the Grand Canyon, US, you can
carry a bike, disassembled. But there aren't very succinct ways of
saying "not even if you push it".

Maybe a tag like "bicycle=prohibited"? "bicycle=no_entry"?

> Several of the "cyclists dismount" signs over here in Australia are at 
> crossings, where you are supposed to dismount anyway, so those ones are 
> presumably a "no really, we mean it" reminder as you could in theory be 
> booked for no doing it anyway. For the ones where you could otherwise ride 
> you bike, I don't know if they have any legal force (not being a cyclist 
> myself).

If it's illegal to ride across any crossing, it doesn't seem worth
tagging the fact, regardless of signage. (Although this comes back to
the discussion about local laws...)

Tags like "bicycle=dismount" would be more useful to cover something
like an unrideable section of a rail trail or something. (Yes, they
exist).

Steve

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