I remember that effort! I was one of (probably many) who volunteered to help. I did chunks of Chronicles and Kings. For those who don't remember, as I understood it, Tyndale House had processed the source text of ESV, inserting tags (into ESV) where it found a Strongs reference in another translation (KJV??), knowing that their tool was imprecise, they then recruited an army of volunteers to go thru each book/chapter and manually pinpoint the exact spot where each of the tags should actually be (they were nearly always close to the right spot). Not difficult, just time-consuming. But now I use their ESV-THE module in Xiphos, and am happy to have it!
Fred On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 12:28 PM DM Smith <dmsm...@crosswire.org> wrote: > That matches my memory. > > On Apr 12, 2025, at 4:50 PM, David Instone-Brewer < > davidinstonebre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I think we added Strongs and tried to change as little as possible. > > *David IB* > > > On Sat, 12 Apr 2025, 19:23 David Haslam, <dfh...@protonmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi David, >> >> The novelty was not in the use of the OSIS XML element *q* - *per se*. >> It's rather the use of the *milestone form* of the *q* element, at start >> & end of each quotation. >> >> And moreover, it's now got me wondering how all the attribute values for >> the *sID* & *eID* pairs were generated? Did the source text have these >> already, or were they generated by *osis2mod* somehow? >> >> Best regards, >> >> David >> >> Sent with Proton Mail <https://pr.tn/ref/SWXT9A5YZ67G> secure email. >> >> On Saturday, April 12th, 2025 at 7:03 PM, David Instone-Brewer < >> davidinstonebre...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> David, I'm fairly sure STEPBible inherited this q markup. I always >> thought it originated with Crosswire before the Strongs were added. >> >> *David IB* >> >> >> On Fri, 11 Apr 2025, 18:44 David Haslam, <dfh...@protonmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I only spotted the use of this novel idea for the first time today... >>> >>> *The milestone version of the OSIS q element* >>> >>> In the *Tyndale House Edition* of the ESV module *ESV_THE* >>> the verses with speech are coded like this example in the OSIS: >>> >>> $$$Genesis 29:7 >>> He >>> <w lemma="strong:H00559">said</w>, >>> <q level="1" marker="“" sID="01029007.1"/> >>> <w lemma="strong:H02005">Behold</w>, it is >>> <w lemma="strong:H05750">still</w> >>> <w lemma="strong:H01419">high</w> >>> <w lemma="strong:H03117">day</w>; it is >>> <w lemma="strong:H03808">not</w> >>> <w lemma="strong:H06256">time</w> for the >>> <w lemma="strong:H04735">livestock</w> to be >>> <w lemma="strong:H00622">gathered together</w>. >>> <w lemma="strong:H08248">Water</w> the >>> <w lemma="strong:H06629">sheep</w> and >>> <w lemma="strong:H01980">go</w>, >>> <w lemma="strong:H07462">pasture</w> them. >>> <q eID="01029007.1" level="1" marker="”"/> >>> >>> >>> NB. For readability, each XML element starts on a new line in this email. >>> The colours are mine too. >>> >>> Verses in the NT in which the words of Jesus are in quotation marks are >>> coded as in this example: >>> >>> $$$Matthew 3:15 >>> >>> <w lemma="strong:G1161">But</w> >>> <w lemma="strong:G2424">Jesus</w> >>> <w lemma="strong:G0611 strong:G3004 strong:G4314">answered</w> >>> <w lemma="strong:G0846">him</w>, >>> <q marker="" who="Jesus"> >>> <q level="1" marker="“" sID="40003015.1"/> >>> <w lemma="strong:G0863">Let</w> it be so >>> <w lemma="strong:G0737">now</w>, >>> <w lemma="strong:G1063">for</w> >>> <w lemma="strong:G3779">thus</w> it is >>> <w lemma="strong:G4241 strong:G1510">fitting</w> for >>> <w lemma="strong:G2254">us</w> to >>> <w lemma="strong:G4137">fulfill</w> >>> <w lemma="strong:G3956">all</w> >>> <w lemma="strong:G1343">righteousness</w>. >>> <q eID="40003015.1" level="1" marker="”"/></q> >>> <w lemma="strong:G5119">Then</w> he >>> <w lemma="strong:G0863 strong:G0846">consented</w>. >>> >>> >>> AFAICT, this has never been documented in the developers' wiki. >>> >>> HT to *Dr David Instone-Brewer* and the *STEP Bible* team. >>> NB. David retired from Tyndale House about 5 years ago. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> David >>> >>> Sent with Proton Mail <https://pr.tn/ref/SWXT9A5YZ67G> secure email. >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page > > > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page >
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