Le 23/01/2025 à 19:07, Arnaud Vié a écrit :
Cyrille, I think what you are talking about are the versification mappings.Exactly! It's what I'm speaking about! But I don't find it in the source of sword, if someone can help me?I'm familiar only with the JSword implementation, which is there : https://github.com/AndBible/jsword/blob/develop/src/main/java/org/crosswire/jsword/versification/VersificationsMapper.java It relies on mapping files describing how verses map from one versification to KJV (or to KJVA, since my contribution on the andbible fork), such as this one : https://github.com/AndBible/jsword/blob/develop/src/main/resources/org/crosswire/jsword/versification/Catholic2.properties Any application can instantiate the VersificationsMapper to convert references from any versification system to any other (using KJVA as pivot). AndBible does, for example - and therefore can today seamlessly align two screens displaying two bibles using completely different versifications.This feature exists as well in the C++ libsword (I see some related code in versificationmgr.cpp ), though I can't help much on that part. Someone else may help explain how the C++ API for this works.
So I fully agree with Cyrille : I don't think preserving bibles in a "wrong" versification is a good idea, given that we have a powerful versification mapping feature that negates this need. The better way to go is to make sure this versification mapping feature is easy to implement and well documented, for applications to use it with minimal effort.(As a side note, I proposed early last year a set of principles to design a modular versification system, precisely to improve the accuracy of these versification mappings while reducing the burden of maintaining dozens of versifications, which is still waiting for feedback.cf. http://crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-devel/2024-February/049957.html )
I'm really disappointed that no one in charge of the project reacted to this incredible proposal! Please respond! At least let Arnaud propose a patch, so you can test and validate or not... That's the tragedy of this list, there are often questions that remain unanswered, which prevents us from moving forward.
Cheers, ArnaudLe jeu. 23 janv. 2025 à 18:14, Fr Cyrille <fr.cyri...@tiberiade.be> a écrit :It seems to me that there is a tool or file that allows you to have the equivalent verses of all Bibles with the kjv when displayed in parallel. (someone can help me?). Personally, I'm not too keen on creating a module that uses kjv versification for the LXX. Because it doesn't correspond to any paper version. Le 23/01/2025 à 16:57, Kovács Zoltán a écrit :Dear Team, I restart this thread to ask a related question. For more than 2 years I have been using LXX version 2.5 in my Sword based application to have the old text available for research. But now I would like to try the new version 3.0 as well, to be available at the same time. Question: Would it be possible to make LXX version 2.5 available under a different module name (e.g. LXX25) on Crosswire's module server, to allow using both without any difficulty? Maybe this would be beneficial for other users than me. If not, I can of course do some hacking in my application and rename LXX version 2.5 to LXX25 internally, and then download 3.0 as the new official LXX. Thanks and blessings, Zoltan Kovács Zoltán <kov...@gmail.com> ezt írta (időpont: 2022. szept. 1., Cs, 18:46): Fr Cyrille <fr.cyri...@tiberiade.be> ezt írta (időpont: 2022. szept. 1., Cs, 12:27): Le 01/09/2022 à 12:19, Kovács Zoltán a écrit :Plus: It seems some verse numberings are different. E.g., version 2.5: Psalms 18:47 = version 3.0: Psalms 17:48 For me, such changes break several parts of the database. Is there a list of such modifications available? Thanks, ZoltanThe new module use the new versification, LXX. You can see the new v11n in the sword's sources. Thanks for the information! I understand that 2.5 uses KJV (as default), so I have all entries in KJV v11n in my database. Is there a simple way to convert a KJV verse notation into LXX v11n? I learned that using VerseKey is a possible way, but I just want to keep my working method via SWModule *module = (SWMgr) library.getModule("LXX") and force using KJV v11n also if 3.0 is used. Thanks for advising me further. Best, Zoltan--*Dr. Zoltán** Kovács, MSc* Institut Ausbildung /Private Pädagogische Hochschule der Diözese Linz //Private University of Education, Diocese Linz //Salesianumweg 3, 4020 Linz// //Mail: zoltan.kov...@ph-linz.at/ /Web: www.ph-linz.at <http://www.ph-linz.at/>/ /RGate: //https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Zoltan-Kovacs-3 <https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Zoltan-Kovacs-3>/ * Aktuelle Veröffentlichungen:* * Z. K. “A note on Erdős's mysterious remark”. arXiv:2412.05190v2 <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/386555316_A_note_on_Erdos%27s_mysterious_remark> (9 December, 2024). * Z. K. and Reinhard Oldenburg. “A Technological Approach to Teaching Inequalities, Propositional and Predicate Logic”. In: 9th International Workshop on Satisfiability Checking and Symbolic Computation, July 2, 2024, Nancy, France, Collocated with IJCAR 2024. Ed. by Chris Brown, Daniela Kaufmann, Cláudia Nalon, Alexander Steen, and Martin Suda. 3717 vols. July 2, 2024, pp. 122–131. eprint: http://ceur-ws.org/Vol-3717/paper7.pdf. * Z. K., Tomás Recio and M. Pilar Vélez. “On automated completion of geometry statements and proofs with GeoGebra Discovery <https://rdcu.be/d411I>”. Annals of Mathematics and Artificial Intelligence (December 27, 2024).-- Vous aimez la Bible ? Vous êtes étudiant en théologie ? Utilisezl'application libre Xiphos <https://xiphos.org/> ou Andbible <https://andbible.github.io/> et accédez aux textes sources, à des commentaires, des dictionnaires et beaucoup d'autres fonctionnalités... Me contacter pour des traductions en français. _______________________________________________ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page _______________________________________________ sword-devel mailing list:sword-devel@crosswire.org http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
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