Y'all:
One more point from a hardcore Linux user: Module developers need to
proofread their work. This requires producing a module, then viewing on
a front-end. Let us please recognize that all Sword related projects
from one end to the other strengthen the usefulness of the whole.
I support Windows (as best I can) with SwordHammer, not because I
personally have any love for Windows or its parent, but for the sake of
those who do use Windows. This seems a matter of common charity. Those
who are good translators, editors, publishers, etc., should not have to
switch operating systems or learn more IT stuff if they are not so
inclined. Like it or not Windows is a near monopoly, and we just have to
take the world as we find it, and help everybody as best we can.
For what it is worth.
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On 12/30/2017 04:05 AM, David Haslam wrote:
Thanks everyone for disparaging those of us using Windows. ;>}
I've been building modules for years with the Win32 tools, and barely
encountered any problems attributable to the utility itself.
Nearly all the problems that arise in module development are due to
getting things wrong in the OSIS XML or in the .conf file.
*osis2mod.exe* just works!
As do all the other Win32 utilities (though there are a few I've never
had cause to try).
If you're a regular Windows user, and all your other useful software is
in Windows,
it's just not sensible to expect folk to jump ship to Linux merely for
building and testing modules.
Of course, that doesn't mean that when we submit a _fully tested module_
along with its source text and .conf file
that the Linux users in the modules team never introduce their own new
bugs, does it?
Best regards,
David
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Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Win32 sword utilities for SWORD release 1.8.0 ?
Local Time: 30 December 2017 7:05 AM
UTC Time: 30 December 2017 07:05
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Couple of points.
A casual module developer does not need any of the utilities at their
most up to date as we would not accept a module, but only a source
text. So, as long is the OSIS etc is right, the rest is my concern as
the module upload person.
Someone who wants to do heavy lifting and on a regular basis should
usually go a direction which is well-known to work. They should not
rely on tools which are maintained with little commitment. I.e. they
should use Linux. Even if someone (else) successfully learns to
compile on or for Windows, this is not the same as us having a
commitment to maintain Windows versions. We do not have that
commitment and moaning about it does not change this.
For your environment, John, the simplest I can suggest would be to
move the module building onto the Linux server, instead of learning to
crosscompile. The way I would do that if I was tied to Windows
workstations is to install the module utilities on the server and use
git hooks to compile a module each time someone pushes updates to the
text. This would require a move from SVN to git, but the added
advantages of that would be significant anyways. I gladly can tell you
more about that if you are interested.
Peter
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