That certainly explains the apparent disorder - thanks for that. On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Chris Little <chris...@crosswire.org> wrote: > On 08/12/2012 11:23 PM, Andrew Thule wrote: >> >> I was making changes to the LXX2012 version - but then quit. I >> decided to instead work on getting out a version with original text. >> I've created a versification system based upon an 1857 edition of >> Brenton's book (and consulted 2 other versions, including a 1900 >> edition). The versification doesn't match the order your text was in, >> but don't worry - it seems to take the OSIS and it it in order >> correctly - however it is ordered in the OSIS based upon the >> versification. (I tried this on another module). I've attached a >> copy of the versification. >> >> I'm going to continue working on the Brenton version so as to get out >> a version with unmodified text. Then I'll get back to the 2012 >> version later and update the English. I found found printing errors >> in two of the book I was consulting based upon your text where verses >> would simply be followed by text from different chapters. Your >> version of the text seemed 'mostly' correct. I was able to resolve >> these problems (mostly) but not all. For example: >> >> Your Sirach 30 has 25 verses - the 1857 printed version has 31 >> Your Sirach 31 has 31 verses - the 1857 printed version has 26 (so >> does the 1900) >> Your Sirach 32 has 24 verses - the 1857 printed version has 20 >> Your Sirach 33 has 31 verses - the 1857 printed version has 12 >> Your Sirach 34 has 26 verses - the 1857 printed version has 31 >> Your Sirach 35 has 20 verses - the 1857 printed version has 24 >> >> I'm convinced the 1857 printed version has typesetting errors because >> this is an instance when the verse numbers jumped around and seemed to >> pull verses from other chapters (for example I think some of the >> verses missing from Sirach 33 in the 1857 printed version show up >> elsewhere. I believe all of there verses are there, but the printed >> version simply seems to mixed them in elsewhere. I've not been able >> to find out of the Greek LXX comes in different flavours these >> editions could have been made from. >> >> However your 1 Kings 9 missed a bunch of verses (numbering from 1Kings >> 9:1-14, 26-28) and comparing it to the printed text, I gave your >> version an empty [9:15] and relabelled [9:26-28] to [9:16-18] and that >> resolved the problem and both texts aligned perfectly. >> >> Even with this change, there's something going on funny about >> Sir.31-38 between different printed versions of the text and your >> text. Even the 1900 version didn't agree with your text or the 1857 >> version (though it mostly followed the 1857 version nearly everywhere >> else. Ultimately, I couldn't resolve those issues. All of the text >> is there just in wrong chapters. For the versification, I went with >> your version of the text.. because I figured it would make it easiest >> to produce a sword module if I didn't have figure out from the Greek >> where the verses were actually suppose to be, and your text 'seemed' >> correct to me. The verses placement seemed to read the most correct. > > > Per the publisher's note at the second Sirach 30:16 of Brenton in my printed > edition: > > "The Greek text of Ecclesiasticus 30:24-36:16 is in great disorder in > virtually every Greek ms. Scholars are convinced by old translations > (Arabic, Syriac, and Old Latin), however, that the order of modern English > editions (e.g. NRSV) is correct. Brenton's versification reflects the > conflict between the Greek text and the order observed in these other > translations." > > --Chris > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
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