I was making changes to the LXX2012 version - but then quit. I decided to instead work on getting out a version with original text. I've created a versification system based upon an 1857 edition of Brenton's book (and consulted 2 other versions, including a 1900 edition). The versification doesn't match the order your text was in, but don't worry - it seems to take the OSIS and it it in order correctly - however it is ordered in the OSIS based upon the versification. (I tried this on another module). I've attached a copy of the versification.
I'm going to continue working on the Brenton version so as to get out a version with unmodified text. Then I'll get back to the 2012 version later and update the English. I found found printing errors in two of the book I was consulting based upon your text where verses would simply be followed by text from different chapters. Your version of the text seemed 'mostly' correct. I was able to resolve these problems (mostly) but not all. For example: Your Sirach 30 has 25 verses - the 1857 printed version has 31 Your Sirach 31 has 31 verses - the 1857 printed version has 26 (so does the 1900) Your Sirach 32 has 24 verses - the 1857 printed version has 20 Your Sirach 33 has 31 verses - the 1857 printed version has 12 Your Sirach 34 has 26 verses - the 1857 printed version has 31 Your Sirach 35 has 20 verses - the 1857 printed version has 24 I'm convinced the 1857 printed version has typesetting errors because this is an instance when the verse numbers jumped around and seemed to pull verses from other chapters (for example I think some of the verses missing from Sirach 33 in the 1857 printed version show up elsewhere. I believe all of there verses are there, but the printed version simply seems to mixed them in elsewhere. I've not been able to find out of the Greek LXX comes in different flavours these editions could have been made from. However your 1 Kings 9 missed a bunch of verses (numbering from 1Kings 9:1-14, 26-28) and comparing it to the printed text, I gave your version an empty [9:15] and relabelled [9:26-28] to [9:16-18] and that resolved the problem and both texts aligned perfectly. Even with this change, there's something going on funny about Sir.31-38 between different printed versions of the text and your text. Even the 1900 version didn't agree with your text or the 1857 version (though it mostly followed the 1857 version nearly everywhere else. Ultimately, I couldn't resolve those issues. All of the text is there just in wrong chapters. For the versification, I went with your version of the text.. because I figured it would make it easiest to produce a sword module if I didn't have figure out from the Greek where the verses were actually suppose to be, and your text 'seemed' correct to me. The verses placement seemed to read the most correct. ~A On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson <kahunap...@mpj.cx> wrote: > I just implemented a lot of spelling corrections for the LXX2012 (thanks to > David Haslam), so you might want to grab a fresh copy tomorrow. > > > On 08/10/2012 03:40 AM, Andrew Thule wrote: > > Hmm, 'basons' was in my text too, so perhaps it was an antiquated word > chosen by Brenton. Regardless, I'm working with your LXX2012 text, which > has already had some of the more archaic language improved, so will stick > with the change. > > ~A > > On Thursday, August 9, 2012, Andrew Thule wrote: >> >> Michael, thanks very much. I've spell corrected the following words: >> kindreds to kindred >> basons to basin >> dulness to dullness. >> >> Otherwise the text looks very good. >> I've turned it into a sword module, and will keep working on improvements, >> including comparing it to the text I had. Let me know and I'll give you FTP >> details where you can install the modules directly. >> >> ~ A >> >> On Thursday, August 9, 2012, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: >>> >>> Yes, please do feel free to use the text I have posted on eBible.org, if >>> you like. If you find errors in it, please let me know so that I can correct >>> them. I have found some by comparing a couple of different sources, but >>> there may still be a few typos/OCR errors. If you have done some work >>> preparing text of the Brenton LXX, you might try comparing it to what I >>> posted to see if there are any errors revealed in that process. This is a >>> good way to redeem the work you have already done. Proofreading is hard. For >>> proof of that, try searching for "statue" in some electronic copies of the >>> ASV (other than the one at http://eBible.org/asv/), and see if it shouldn't >>> actually be "statute". :-) >>> >>> The LXX2012 is a spelling-updated version of the Brenton translation, >>> with numerous substitutions like "hath"->"has" done. >>> >>> Enjoy! >>> Michael >>> http://MLJohnson.org >>> >>> On 08/09/2012 07:59 AM, Andrew Thule wrote: >>> >>> Now that I've seen Michael has place his text in the public domain, >>> really appreciate you pointing out these links. >>> >>> This is going to make things go much quicker. Though I have already >>> spent some effort building source text, haven't pride enough to stop me from >>> using Michaels text instead, which as far as I can tell has fewer errors. >>> >>> ~A >>> >>> On Thursday, August 9, 2012, David Haslam wrote: >>>> >>>> I expect that LXXE does indeed mean the English Brenton. >>>> >>>> If so, then Andrew should be made aware that Michael Johnson is working >>>> on a >>>> modernized English LXX. >>>> >>>> See these two links: >>>> >>>> http://ebible.org/eng-Brenton/ >>>> http://ebible.org/eng-lxx2012/ >>>> >>>> David >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> View this message in context: >>>> http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Alternate-Versification-question-tp4650784p4650791.html >>>> Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org >>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page >>> >>> > > > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page > > > > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
/****************************************************************************** * canon_lxxe.h - Versification data for the LXXE system * * Copyright 2009 CrossWire Bible Society (http://www.crosswire.org) * CrossWire Bible Society * P. O. Box 2528 * Tempe, AZ 85280-2528 * * This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it * under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the * Free Software Foundation version 2. * * This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but * WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of * MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU * General Public License for more details. */ #ifndef CANON_LXXE_H #define CANON_LXXE_H SWORD_NAMESPACE_START // Versification system: LXXE // Book order: Gen Exod Lev Num Deut Josh Judg Ruth 1Sam 2Sam 1Kgs 2Kgs 1Chr 2Chr Ezra Neh Esth Job Ps Prov Eccl Song Isa Jer Lam Ezek Dan Hos Joel Amos Obad Jonah Mic Nah Hab Zeph Hag Zech Mal 1Esd Tob Jdt Wis Sir Bar EpJer PrAzar Sus Bel 1Macc 2Macc 3Macc 4Macc PrMan // This versification data is based on examination of a 1857 edition of 'The Septuagint version of the Old Testament and Apocrypha. Different editions have errors. Most have been corrected here, and where two conflict the greater number was choosen. The only place resolution was not possible was around Sirach 30-36 where a 1900 edition had printing errors mixing sections of chapters // Note that 11QPs is included as Part of Ps, as Ps.151 // Two different version of PrMan are included; one as PrMan and the other as Ps.152 /****************************************************************************** * [on]tbooks_lxxe - initialize static instance for all canonical * text names and chapmax */ // for otbooks_lxxe, use otbooks /****************************************************************************** * [on]tbooks_lxxe - initialize static instance for all canonical * text names and chapmax */ struct sbook otbooks_lxxe[] = { {"Genesis", "Gen", "Gen", 50}, {"Exodus", "Exod", "Exod", 40}, {"Leviticus", "Lev", "Lev", 27}, {"Numbers", "Num", "Num", 36}, {"Deuteronomy", "Deut", "Deut", 34}, {"Joshua", "Josh", "Josh", 24}, {"Judges", "Judg", "Judg", 21}, {"Ruth", "Ruth", "Ruth", 4}, {"I Samuel", "1Sam", "1Sam", 31}, {"II Samuel", "2Sam", "2Sam", 24}, {"I Kings", "1Kgs", "1Kgs", 22}, {"II Kings", "2Kgs", "2Kgs", 25}, {"I Chronicles", "1Chr", "1Chr", 29}, {"II Chronicles", "2Chr", "2Chr", 36}, {"Ezra", "Ezra", "Ezra", 10}, {"Nehemiah", "Neh", "Neh", 13}, {"Esther", "Esth", "Esth", 10}, {"Job", "Job", "Job", 42}, {"Psalms", "Ps", "Ps", 152}, {"Proverbs", "Prov", "Prov", 31}, {"Ecclesiastes", "Eccl", "Eccl", 12}, {"Song of Solomon", "Song", "Song", 8}, {"Isaiah", "Isa", "Isa", 66}, {"Jeremiah", "Jer", "Jer", 52}, {"Lamentations", "Lam", "Lam", 5}, {"Ezekiel", "Ezek", "Ezek", 48}, {"Daniel", "Dan", "Dan", 12}, {"Hosea", "Hos", "Hos", 14}, {"Joel", "Joel", "Joel", 3}, {"Amos", "Amos", "Amos", 9}, {"Obadiah", "Obad", "Obad", 1}, {"Jonah", "Jonah", "Jonah", 4}, {"Micah", "Mic", "Mic", 7}, {"Nahum", "Nah", "Nah", 3}, {"Habakkuk", "Hab", "Hab", 3}, {"Zephaniah", "Zeph", "Zeph", 3}, {"Haggai", "Hag", "Hag", 2}, {"Zechariah", "Zech", "Zech", 14}, {"Malachi", "Mal", "Mal", 4}, {"I Esdras", "1Esd", "1Esd", 9}, {"Tobit", "Tob", "Tob", 14}, {"Judith", "Jdt", "Jdt", 16}, {"Wisdom", "Wis", "Wis", 19}, {"Sirach", "Sir", "Sir", 51}, {"Baruch", "Bar", "Bar", 5}, {"Letter of Jeremiah", "EpJer", "EpJer", 1}, {"Song of the Three Children", "PrAzar", "PrAzar", 1}, {"Susanna", "Sus", "Sus", 1}, {"Bel and the Dragon", "Bel", "Bel", 1}, {"I Maccabees", "1Macc", "1Macc", 16}, {"II Maccabees", "2Macc", "2Macc", 15}, {"III Maccabees", "3Macc", "3Macc", 7}, {"IV Maccabees", "4Macc", "4Macc", 18}, {"Prayer of Manasses", "PrMan", "PrMan", 1}, {"", "", "", 0} }; // for ntbooks_lxxe, use ntbooks /****************************************************************************** * Maximum verses per chapter */ int vm_lxxe[] = { // Genesis 31, 24, 25, 26, 31, 23, 24, 22, 29, 32, 32, 20, 18, 24, 21, 16, 27, 33, 38, 18, 34, 24, 20, 67, 34, 35, 46, 22, 35, 43, 55, 32, 20, 31, 29, 44, 35, 30, 23, 23, 57, 38, 34, 34, 28, 34, 31, 22, 33, 26, // Exodus 22, 25, 22, 31, 23, 30, 25, 32, 35, 29, 10, 51, 22, 31, 27, 36, 16, 27, 25, 26, 36, 31, 33, 18, 40, 37, 21, 39, 46, 38, 18, 35, 23, 35, 35, 40, 21, 27, 23, 38, // Leviticus 17, 16, 17, 35, 19, 40, 28, 36, 24, 20, 47, 8, 59, 57, 33, 34, 16, 30, 37, 27, 24, 33, 44, 23, 55, 46, 34, // Numbers 54, 34, 51, 49, 31, 27, 89, 26, 23, 36, 35, 15, 34, 45, 41, 50, 13, 32, 22, 29, 35, 41, 30, 25, 18, 65, 23, 31, 39, 17, 54, 42, 56, 29, 34, 13, // Deuteronomy 46, 37, 29, 49, 33, 25, 26, 20, 29, 22, 32, 32, 18, 29, 23, 22, 20, 22, 21, 20, 23, 30, 23, 24, 19, 19, 26, 68, 29, 20, 29, 52, 29, 12, // Joshua 18, 24, 17, 24, 16, 27, 26, 35, 35, 42, 23, 24, 32, 15, 63, 10, 18, 28, 51, 6, 43, 34, 16, 34, // Judges 36, 23, 31, 24, 32, 40, 25, 35, 57, 18, 40, 15, 25, 20, 20, 31, 13, 31, 30, 48, 25, // Ruth 22, 23, 18, 22, // I Kings (1 Samuel) 28, 36, 21, 22, 12, 21, 17, 22, 27, 27, 15, 25, 23, 52, 35, 23, 58, 30, 24, 42, 15, 23, 28, 23, 44, 25, 12, 25, 11, 31, 13, // II Kings (2 Samuel) 27, 32, 39, 12, 25, 23, 29, 18, 13, 19, 27, 31, 39, 33, 37, 23, 29, 33, 43, 26, 22, 51, 39, 25, // III Kings (1 Kings) 53, 46, 28, 35, 18, 38, 51, 66, 18, 29, 44, 33, 34, 31, 34, 34, 24, 46, 21, 29, 43, 54, // IV Kings (2 Kings) 18, 25, 27, 44, 27, 33, 20, 29, 37, 36, 21, 21, 25, 29, 38, 20, 41, 37, 37, 21, 26, 20, 37, 20, 30, // I Chronicles 54, 55, 24, 43, 26, 81, 40, 40, 44, 14, 47, 40, 14, 17, 29, 43, 27, 17, 19, 8, 30, 19, 32, 31, 31, 32, 34, 21, 30, // II Chronicles 17, 18, 17, 22, 14, 42, 22, 18, 31, 19, 23, 16, 22, 15, 19, 14, 19, 34, 11, 37, 20, 12, 21, 27, 28, 23, 9, 27, 36, 27, 21, 33, 25, 33, 27, 23, // Ezra 11, 70, 13, 24, 17, 22, 28, 36, 15, 44, // Nehemiah 11, 20, 32, 23, 19, 19, 73, 18, 38, 39, 36, 47, 31, // Esther 22, 23, 15, 17, 14, 14, 10, 17, 32, 3, // Job 22, 13, 26, 21, 27, 30, 21, 22, 35, 22, 20, 25, 28, 22, 35, 23, 16, 21, 29, 29, 34, 30, 17, 25, 6, 14, 23, 28, 25, 31, 40, 22, 33, 37, 16, 33, 24, 41, 35, 27, 25, 18, // Psalms 6, 12, 8, 8, 12, 10, 17, 9, 20, 18, 7, 8, 6, 7, 5, 11, 15, 50, 14, 9, 13, 31, 6, 10, 22, 12, 14, 9, 11, 12, 24, 11, 22, 22, 28, 12, 40, 22, 13, 17, 13, 11, 5, 26, 17, 11, 9, 14, 20, 23, 19, 9, 6, 7, 23, 13, 11, 11, 17, 12, 8, 12, 11, 10, 13, 20, 7, 35, 36, 5, 24, 20, 28, 23, 10, 12, 20, 72, 13, 19, 16, 8, 18, 12, 13, 17, 7, 18, 52, 17, 16, 15, 5, 23, 11, 13, 12, 9, 9, 5, 8, 28, 22, 35, 45, 48, 43, 13, 31, 7, 10, 10, 9, 8, 18, 19, 2, 29, 176, 7, 8, 9, 4, 8, 5, 6, 5, 6, 8, 8, 3, 18, 3, 3, 21, 26, 9, 8, 24, 13, 10, 7, 12, 15, 21, 10, 20, 14, 9, 6, 7, 15, // Proverbs 33, 22, 35, 27, 23, 35, 27, 36, 18, 32, 31, 28, 25, 35, 33, 33, 28, 24, 29, 30, 31, 29, 35, 34, 28, 28, 27, 28, 27, 33, 31, // Ecclesiastes 18, 26, 22, 17, 19, 11, 30, 17, 18, 20, 10, 14, // Song of Solomon 17, 17, 11, 16, 17, 12, 13, 14, // Esias 31, 22, 26, 6, 30, 13, 25, 22, 21, 34, 16, 6, 22, 32, 9, 14, 14, 7, 25, 6, 17, 25, 18, 23, 12, 21, 13, 29, 24, 33, 9, 20, 24, 17, 10, 22, 38, 22, 8, 31, 29, 25, 28, 28, 26, 13, 15, 22, 26, 11, 23, 15, 12, 17, 13, 12, 21, 14, 21, 22, 11, 12, 19, 12, 25, 24, // Jeremias 19, 37, 25, 31, 31, 30, 34, 22, 26, 25, 23, 17, 27, 22, 21, 21, 27, 23, 15, 18, 14, 30, 40, 10, 39, 28, 46, 64, 22, 33, 47, 38, 24, 22, 17, 32, 24, 40, 44, 13, 22, 19, 32, 21, 28, 18, 16, 18, 22, 13, 35, 34, // Lamentations 22, 22, 66, 22, 22, // Jezekiel 28, 10, 27, 17, 17, 14, 27, 18, 11, 22, 25, 28, 23, 23, 8, 63, 24, 32, 14, 49, 32, 31, 49, 27, 17, 21, 36, 26, 21, 26, 18, 32, 33, 31, 15, 38, 28, 23, 29, 49, 26, 20, 27, 31, 25, 24, 23, 35, // Daniel 21, 49, 33, 34, 31, 28, 28, 27, 27, 21, 45, 13, // Osee 11, 23, 5, 19, 15, 12, 16, 14, 17, 15, 12, 14, 15, 10, // Joel 20, 32, 21, // Amos 15, 16, 15, 13, 27, 15, 17, 14, 15, // Obdias 21, // Jonas 16, 11, 10, 11, // Michaeas 16, 13, 12, 13, 15, 16, 20, // Naum 15, 13, 19, // Ambacum 17, 20, 19, // Sophonias 18, 14, 20, // Aggaeus 15, 24, // Zacharias 21, 13, 11, 14, 11, 15, 14, 23, 17, 12, 17, 14, 9, 21, // Malachias 14, 17, 18, 6, // I Esdras 58, 30, 24, 63, 73, 34, 15, 96, 55, // Tobit 22, 14, 17, 21, 22, 17, 18, 21, 6, 13, 19, 22, 18, 15, // Judith 16, 28, 10, 15, 24, 21, 32, 36, 14, 23, 23, 20, 20, 19, 13, 25, // Wisdom of Solomon 16, 24, 19, 20, 23, 25, 30, 21, 18, 21, 26, 27, 19, 31, 19, 29, 21, 25, 22, // Sirach 30, 18, 31, 31, 15, 37, 36, 19, 18, 31, 34, 18, 26, 27, 20, 30, 32, 33, 30, 32, 28, 27, 28, 34, 26, 29, 30, 26, 28, 25, 31, 24, 31, 26, 20, 26, 31, 34, 35, 30, 22, 25, 33, 24, 26, 20, 25, 25, 16, 29, 30, // Baruch 22, 35, 37, 37, 9, // Epistle of Jeremias 73, // Song of the Three Children 67, // Susanna 64, // Bel and the Dragon 42, // I Maccabees 64, 70, 60, 61, 68, 63, 50, 32, 73, 89, 74, 53, 53, 49, 41, 24, // II Maccabees 36, 32, 40, 50, 27, 31, 42, 36, 29, 38, 38, 45, 26, 46, 39, // III Maccabees 29, 33, 30, 21, 51, 41, 23, // IV Maccabees 35, 24, 21, 26, 38, 35, 25, 27, 32, 21, 27, 20, 27, 20, 32, 25, 24, 24, // Prayer of Manasses 14, }; SWORD_NAMESPACE_END #endif
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