On 06/21/15 01:09, Bruce Evans wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jun 2015, Pedro Giffuni wrote:

On 06/19/15 12:23, Bruce Evans wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015, Dimitry Andric wrote:

On 19 Jun 2015, at 17:02, Pedro Giffuni <p...@freebsd.org> wrote:

On 19/06/2015 05:16 a.m., David Chisnall wrote:
I only just caught this (having seen the fallout from NetBSD doing the same thing in a shipping release and the pain that it’s caused): __weak is a reserved keyword in Objective-C, please pick another name for this. This in cdefs.h makes it impossible to include any FreeBSD standard headers in Objective-C programs (of which we have a couple of hundred in ports) if they use any of the modern Objective-C language modes.
...
Closely related to this, we are redefining _Noreturn, which is a reserved keyword in C11.

No, sys/cdefs.h has:

  254  /*
  255   * Keywords added in C11.
  256   */
  257
258 #if !defined(__STDC_VERSION__) || __STDC_VERSION__ < 201112L || defined(lint)
[...]
  284  #if defined(__cplusplus) && __cplusplus >= 201103L
  285  #define _Noreturn               [[noreturn]]
  286  #else
  287  #define _Noreturn               __dead2
  288  #endif
[...]
  320  #endif /* __STDC_VERSION__ || __STDC_VERSION__ < 201112L */

So the whole block redefining all the _Xxx identifiers is skipped for
C11 and higher.

I probably pointed this out incorrectly to Pedro.

All uses of _Noreturn are still broken, and also ugly. __dead2 is the
gcc-2 compatible version of the gcc-1 compatible macro __dead.  It is
syntactically different from __dead and _Noreturn.  It must be placed
after the function parameter list instead of in the function type
declarator because old versions of gcc only accept attributes there.
__dead and presumably _Noreturn must be placed in the function type
declarator.  This is incompatible, and also uglier.

I was thinking that _Noreturn can be fixed for older compilers
less disruptively.

I haven't tested the attached patch the idea is to resurrect
__dead and use it for _Noreturn.

Correct version with ugly declarations:

__dead void
    foo(void) __dead2;


With the patch we would use:

__Noreturn void
  foo(void) _dead2;

Which is still ugly but C11-ish.

That asks for the same problems as defining __weak.

Why not just don't use _Noreturn?  It is an unimprovement on the gcc
attribute.  The attribute works at the beginning or end, while Noreturn
only works at the end.

As I see it, newer (C11) software is likely to use _Noreturn in their
headers

  I checked this:

pts/23:bde@freefall:~/s> cc -O -S a.c -std=c11
a.c:3:26: error: '_Noreturn' keyword must precede function declarator
_Noreturn void bar(void) _Noreturn;
                         ^

I also checked if __dead2 works at the beginning in gcc-2.95.4. It
does, but other headers are broken, so the support for gcc-2.95.4 in
sys/cdefs.h is almost useless:

pts/23:bde@freefall:~/s> gcc295 -O -S a.c
In file included from /usr/include/machine/_types.h:6,
                 from /usr/include/sys/_types.h:33,
                 from /usr/include/x86/endian.h:37,
                 from /usr/include/machine/endian.h:6,
                 from /usr/include/sys/types.h:44,
                 from a.c:1:
/usr/include/x86/_types.h:161: syntax error before `__gnuc_va_list'
/usr/include/x86/_types.h:161: warning: data definition has no type or storage c
lass

Here is the broken part of x86/_types.h:

%%%
#ifdef __GNUCLIKE_BUILTIN_VARARGS
typedef __builtin_va_list    __va_list;    /* internally known to gcc */
#elif defined(lint)
typedef char *            __va_list;    /* pretend */
#endif
#if defined(__GNUC_VA_LIST_COMPATIBILITY) && !defined(__GNUC_VA_LIST) \
    && !defined(__NO_GNUC_VA_LIST)
#define __GNUC_VA_LIST
meta: next is line 161:
typedef __va_list        __gnuc_va_list; /* compatibility w/GNU headers*/
#endif
%%%

Despite (rather, because of) mounds of ifdefs to support old gcc, it doesn't
actually work.

<stdarg.h> is honestly broken. It knows that it depends on the gcc feature __GNUCLIKE_BUILTIN_STDARG, and aborts with an #error when it is not available.
All of the _GNUCLIKE_BUILTIN_* macros for variadic args are controlled by
sys/cdefs.h.  They are defined when the compiler is either gcc newer than
gcc-2.95 or is icc.



You have a point there: I tried to get the core team to at least deprecate
gcc <= 2.8.1 and they didn't reach an agreement. :(

I still think we could have older gcc work fine with _Noreturn and
that would be a step forward.

Pedro.
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