In message: <200906302252.53894....@love2party.net>
            Max Laier <m...@love2party.net> writes:
: On Tuesday 30 June 2009 21:37:12 Ulrich Spörlein wrote:
: > On Tue, 30.06.2009 at 09:46:32 -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote:
: > > In message: <alpine.bsf.2.00.0906301631470.28...@fledge.watson.org>
: > >
: > >             Robert Watson <rwat...@freebsd.org> writes:
: > > : On Tue, 30 Jun 2009, M. Warner Losh wrote:
: > > : > Last time this BBQ came up, I thought it was agreed that there
: > > : > would be a xterm-XXX that didn't do this behavior for those folks
: > > : > that think the current behavior is harmfully wrong...
: > > :
: > > : Whereas I think it's a bug in more(1)/less(1) that it tries to use
: > > : those sequences...
: > >
: > > Agreed.  vi too.  I'll note that on Mac OS, in the xterm, you don't
: > > see this with either...  But I don't know how to undo tic(1)
: > > formatting to get back to the raw xterm entries...
: >
: > For vim(1) you can use something like set t_ti= t_te=
: >
: > Btw, I do like the current behaviour, but if $PAGER can be coerced into
: > not clearing screen after exit, I think more people could be persuaded.
: 
: $ alias less='less -X'
: 
:    -X or --no-init
:           Disables sending the termcap initialization and deinitialization
:           strings to the terminal.  This is  sometimes  desirable  if  the
:           deinitialization  string does something unnecessary, like clear-
:           ing the screen.
: 
: It's one of the first things I do when I get a linux shell account 
: somewhere.

Looks like "setenv LESS -X" or "export LESS=-X" would do the same
thing, no?  And work for "more" too...

Warner
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