Hello Dave.

Thank you so much for this extensive information and the links. Very much
appreciated. I will try them all.

Best Wishes,
Ross

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On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Dave Hunt <davehuntau...@btinternet.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The recorded files will likely be four mono files, or less likely, an
> interleaved four channel file.
> The order of the files should be W, X, Y, Z.
>
> ProTools, unless HD versions, only handle stereo files but can probably
> import them as four mono flies.
> Logic (in my experience) only has one multi-channel bus structure, which
> can be quad or various versions of Dolby 5.1 etc.
>
> De-interleaver can split interleaved files or interleave mono files.
>
> http://www.birmingham.ac.uk/facilities/ea-studios/research/mulch.aspx
>
> You should be able to import the files into either. You may need to group
> channels together for editing even though it may all sound a bit strange.
>
> You could possibly botch a sort of stereo decoder by treating X and Y as
> an MS signal, and add a bit of W to both X and Y.
>
> It seems that most plug-in decoders have settings for fixed arrays. Good
> enough for editing on quad or 5.1 systems, but not for large arrays.
>
> ProTools and Logic don't have good architectures for using ambisonics.
> Reaper is much better, though I haven't used it very seriously, and it can
> be a bit confusing initially.
>
> If you are on Mac you could try my free 3DAS Ambisonic Decoder.
>
> http://www.3d-audioscape.com/downloads.html
>
> It is a stand alone decoder with a WXYZ input, and can address 8 speakers,
> regular arrays best. You can use Soundflower to get the output of any DAW
> into it, and it then outputs to your audio interface. Alternatively you can
> output the four channels to your audio interface and run the decoder on
> another machine with a bigger audio interface.
>
> It was built with Max, and similar things I have made have run on various
> Mac OS versions, though it has not been used yet on El Capitan. It should
> be OK, but no guarantees.
>
> It is only an 8-channel version as it was aimed at beginners with
> ambisonics. None of my software has huge numbers of users, so there hasn't
> been much feedback. Martyn Ware uses it a lot. More output channels are
> fairly straightforward to implement, though it is questionable whether
> first order ambisonics benefits from having more than eight speakers.
>
> There are, of course, other decoders, none of which I've used in earnest.
> Wigware
>
> Harpex
> harpex.net
> Reputedly the best, processing first order ambisonic signals to something
> like higher orders.
>
> BlueRipple
> et al.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Dave Hunt
>
>
>
> On 4 Sep 2016, at 17:00, sursound-requ...@music.vt.edu wrote:
>
> From: Ross Adams <ross.adams...@gmail.com>
>> Date: 4 September 2016 14:08:44 BDT
>> To: sursound@music.vt.edu
>> Subject: [Sursound] b-format decoders
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I made some recordings on a soundfield st250 in b-format.
>>
>> Please could you recommend a decoder i can use in pro-tools 10 or Logic x
>> that will allow me to make the four stems into stereo files or a decoder
>> that I can place on the master out so that I could edit the files whilst
>> listing in stereo.
>>
>> Also a decoder that would allow me to play back the stems as b-format
>> files through a multi-speaker array within a live performance realm.
>>
>> Thank you in advance.
>> Ross
>>
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