Hadn't had chance to join in this because work is bonkers at the moment.

The distinction between a speaker which is part of a stereo projection system, 
for the reproduction (using an agreed format) of the left-right dimensions of a 
soudstage, and one used as an instrument in its own right, or indeed, for 
projecting spatial matters other than the agreed 'living room' formats, is 
worth making.

If one is simply wanting an omnidirectional speaker, then the type normally 
used for frequency sweeping for room response measurements is fine. Indeed, 
since speakers are increasingly omnidirectional with decreasing frequency, 
then, arguably, if one is not requiring the precision-for-room-measurement, you 
could just use a sub and a much smaller multiface speaker. If you don't need 
up-down as much as 360 horizontal, the problem is simpler still.

But if you'd actually like control of directivity, then you're after something 
else - a kind of 'inside-out' surround rig. We cobbled something together in 
the '90s at York, simply using ambisonics wrongly - we put eight speakers in a 
tiny ring facing outwards (so, horizontal only).- we wanted an 'object 
projection' system that could display what I called (mostly to irritate audio 
engineers)  "facingness". It worked quite nicely, actually.

Later, at Derby, we used the same thing but just with 4 speakers, in the centre 
of a 2nd order ring, so we could have inside and outside, as it were - and even 
use the outside to provide the reverb and the inside to provide the object - 
which could 'spin'. We even had partial success in making a phantom object 
travel between centre and periphery.

We don't get much time for such idle playing now, but for performance use it 
was quite an interesting tool, giving a kind of spatial perception not normally 
engendered by sound field reproduction systems.

If you've got space, time and amps, it's easy enough to play with
cheers



Dr. Peter Lennox

School of Technology,
Faculty of Arts, Design and Technology
University of Derby, UK
e: p.len...@derby.ac.uk 
t: 01332 593155

-----Original Message-----
From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On 
Behalf Of etienne deleflie
Sent: 22 October 2012 01:34
To: Surround Sound discussion group
Subject: [Sursound] Uses for spherical speakers

> Such a thing was offered for sale for consumers by DBX(as I recall) a 
> long time ago. I do not think it had much success--not surprisingly 
> since there is no real reason to want such a thing.

I too was thinking that I couldn't see much use for a spherical speaker... 
other than in perhaps purely technical endeavours.

But, as it happens, I've just been reading a book chapter (1965) by Henry Brant 
called "space as an essential aspect of music composition". For those who don't 
know ... Brant used spatial separation of performers in orchestral works. 
(similar line to Charles Ives ... John Cage used similar techniques too ... as 
did many others).

On page 236 Brant considers the use of loud speakers for locations where 
performers cant be placed ... but he criticises the characteristics of 
loudspeakers as being so directional that they project very poorly within the 
performance space. So there's at least one use for spherical speakers!

Of course this perspective on spatial music, in which existing spaces are used 
to affect sounds, is very different to the concerns of spatial music on this 
list ... which is more concerned with either the creation of virtual realities 
through spatial audio, or the re-projection of recorded sounds with spatial 
fidelity.

Etienne
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