Yes, I have a few woofers available BUT according to what I understand
from psychoacoustics we cannot really hear directions of sound below 80 Hz,
as the ear/brain is changing method of decoding soundwaves between 80 to 100 Hz?
So do I really need more than a pair driven in mono (or 4) to even out the 
excitation of the room modes? 

If I where to add a low frequency decoder how should I do that?

Is it not so that the speaker feed to all of the 10 speakers are in phase for 
frequencies lower than 
Some "undefined" frequency? 
That is using Ambdec?

Should I have a highpass filter before or after the decoder for the 10 "small" 
speakers,
if I add a low frequency feed, either mono or decoded?

Bo-Erik

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From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On 
Behalf Of Peter Lennox
Sent: den 4 maj 2011 11:32
To: Surround Sound discussion group
Subject: Re: [Sursound] Minim AD7 for sale - Speaker configs.

Quick suggestion: - as you're having to use more than 8 channels anyway, you're 
likely to be using a 16 channel card; thus, you would have some channels left 
to decode (horizontal only) to 3 or 4 subs

Dr Peter Lennox
School of Technology
University of Derby, UK
tel: 01332 593155
e: p.len...@derby.ac.uk  


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From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On 
Behalf Of Bo-Erik Sandholm
Sent: 04 May 2011 08:09
To: Surround Sound discussion group
Subject: Re: [Sursound] Minim AD7 for sale - Speaker configs.

 

I still want to suggest a setup that I will soon have in operation, I have 
written about it before.
It uses 10 channels, it is a hexagon in the horizontal plane with a speakers at 
front back.
The Z is handled by for speakers, placed where the 4 hexagon side speakers will 
end up if the 
Hexagon is rotated 90 degrees around a axis through the front and back hexagon 
speakers.

Fons A has created a ambdec for me of this setup.

I have the possibility to have all speakers except the 2 floor speakers 
permanently mounted due to 
my room geometry. I have the 2 floor speakers mounted on a long wooden plank 
letting me getting them in place quickly.

I have been rethinking my amplifier setup and will now use 3 modules of 4 
channel sure swiched amps instead of 2 Home theater amplifiers.
The shure amp modules (4 x 100W) cost 98USD including a switched power supply, 
an will give 30 watts per 8 ohm speakers,
I will only be using 2 power supplies so the total material cost is at the 
moment 3 x 44 US + 2 x 48 USD, that is less than 240 USD.
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=320-302

I will be using second hand Kef KHT-2005.2 "Eggs" as speakers.

It is a bit of a "bother" that 10 instead of 8 channels are used, when it comes 
to the sound card setups...

Regards
Bo-Erik

-----Original Message-----
From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On 
Behalf Of Aaron Heller
Sent: den 3 maj 2011 20:04
To: Surround Sound discussion group
Subject: Re: [Sursound] Minim AD7 for sale

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Fons Adriaensen <f...@linuxaudio.org> wrote:
> On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 07:15:29PM +0530, umashankar mantravadi wrote:
>>
>> in fact angelo recommended that i arrange the eight speakers as two 
>> crossed squares. two speakers in front and back, and four speakers 
>> mid bottom left and right and mid top left and right, the only 
>> problem is i do not see a readymade decoder
>
> A variation on this is an horizontal rectangle, 1 unit wide and 1.73 
> deep, and a vertical rectangle in the YZ plane 1 unit high and 1.73 wide.
> Or the same rotated 90 degrees. Looking from above you see an hexagon.
>
> This somewhat improves the rE for horizontal directions (not much), at 
> the expense of all others. Anything outside the +/- 30 degrees 
> elevation region will become very fuzzy.

I had one of these set up at home for a couple of days and found it better than 
a horizontal hexagon.  The impression of height is a
welcome addition to the sense of envelopment.   I had a fader set up
in Bidule so you could change the Z gain to compare horizontal-only with 
periphonic. The entire listening panel (my son and I) preferred having the 
height info, but the rest of the family didn't appreciate having a couple of 
ladders in the living room.  I also tried it with the vertical rectangle in the 
XZ plane.  That works too.  Contact me off list if you want the Ambdec config 
files I used.

Aaron Heller <hel...@ai.sri.com>
Menlo Park, CA  US
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