That's an interesting one. In the early days of Ambisonics, a bi-rectangular array was often mentioned as having advantages. A horizontal rectangle, narrow dimension being left-right as that a normal stereo pair is also available in the same array, plus a vertical left-right rectangle which supposed to help with the stability of the side images.

           Dave

On 03/05/2011 14:45, umashankar mantravadi wrote:
in fact angelo recommended that i arrange the eight speakers as two crossed 
squares. two speakers in front and back, and four speakers mid bottom left and 
right and mid top left and right, the only problem is i do not see a readymade 
decoder

umashankar

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From: r...@cubiculum.com
Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 14:54:25 +0200
To: richarddob...@blueyonder.co.uk; sursound@music.vt.edu
Subject: Re: [Sursound] Minim AD7 for sale


On 3 May 2011, at 13:08, Richard Dobson wrote:

My proposed application is not music listening as such, but sonification of particle 
collisions in the LHC. In the data, Z is the beam axis, and the most interesting stuff 
has high transverse momentum, i.e. left right up down across the beam axis. I can do a 
great deal just with horizontal surround (the most obvious way of sonifying bipolar data, 
of which there is a lot), but most collisions are very obviously 3D in space. 
"Normally", jets are formed in symmetrical pairs e.g. one hard left, one hard 
right, but recently they have found some instances where the jets were not exactly in 
opposite directions, indicating (possibly) some new physics. So it will be important to 
tell if two sounds are exactly opposite (180 deg in effect), or at a narrower angle. 
There may be situations where being able to rotate the soundfield in the classic B-Format 
way in order to choose an alternative listener orientation would be useful.
Sure, in such a scenario you'd of course want Z-axis info, too. But then you 
may also need a more precise and stable localization. Naive guess would be 
something like two rings of six speakers at different horizontal levels would 
be a reasonable minimum.

Here's a question for the experts:

If one considers a cube arrangement as a minimum for 3D playback, which could be 
interpreted as two rings of four speakers at different horizontal levels, then why would 
one choose a cube over e.g. two "rings" of four speakers that are not only at 
different horizontal levels, but rotated by 45deg against each other. In other words, a 
setup that in projection wouldn't be a square, but an octagon?

Ronald
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