Hi Jörn,

On May 1, 2011, at 9:39 PM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
> for me, 1st order horizontal is nice but on the brink of collapsing due
> to ambiguous source localosation, 1st order peri tips it over the edge.
> that's with my sound engineer's ear, not with my music appreciation ear.
> 
> paul's first order recordings are lovely, but kind of easy on the
> format, since they have a frontal soundstage for the most part, which
> you "tune in" to, and simply disbelieve any spuriousness from the rear.


You do remember that in "Epiphanie" we had 24 musicians surrounding the mics in 
an 8 m / 24' diameter circle ;-)

We got a very nice rendition with POA but I think the important point is that 
the main setup was constructed of four M/S pairs facing in the four cardinal 
directions, each 2 m / 6' from both the center and the musicians. I panned the 
L/R-component into eight segments (using Bruce's fine plug-in) and rendered to 
5.1. Localization was very good on a standard 5.1 setup using five single 
driver Ginko's.

On May 1, 2011, at 10:11 PM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
> On 05/01/2011 04:32 AM, Stefan Schreiber wrote:
>> A typical B format mic is good for ambience recordings, but maybe not
>> for orchestral recordings, or in fact any musical recoding with a group
>> of people playing.
> 
> that depends on the material, and your target system. spaced omnis sound
> more "WOW" on stereo than any coincident technique, so if that's the
> target, no point in using a soundfield, unless you want to cater to
> those few localisation nutheads who'd also use (gasp!) a blumlein pair
> (like yours truly :).

Since I have added a TetraMic to my collection I've used it on nearly every 
recording session. It's a great center mic, you can nicely extract directional 
"spots", and in some contexts it even constitutes a usable Hauptmikrofon--for 
(Ambisonic) surround as well as stereo.

Cheers,

Andrew
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