2011/5/1 Richard Dobson <richarddob...@blueyonder.co.uk>

> On 01/05/2011 12:50, Svein Berge wrote:
> ..
>
>
>>>  Another anecdotal answer, which doesn't even quite address the question:
>> The
>> difference between 1st order horizontal and 3rd order horizontal is easy
>> to
>> hear for the common man.
>>
>
> Using 5.1, or some other arrangement?
>

Bertet et al used 12 speakers on a circle, and also studied the effect of
reducing the speaker count to 8 for the 3rd order material and 4 for the 1st
order material. We used 8 speakers on a circle.


>
> The colloquial assumption or implication behind the use of the word
> "difference" is that one presentation was better than another, but strictly
> speaking all it says is that people noticed some difference. Adding reverb
> makes a difference (some folk claim that directional cable makes a
> difference), but more is not necessarily better. So it would be good to have
> some elaboration of what form the listening tests took, and what
> "difference" really means here.


These tests followed a roughly the MUSHRA protocol for blind testing, and
"difference" means that the systems were statistically distinguishable,
looking only at people's scores, at the 95% confidence level, using common
hypothesis testing techniques. All systems were compared to a reference
system and what people were evaulating was the amount of degradation from
the reference. More details about the tests are available in the papers for
those with a high patience * curiosity product:

http://ambisonics-symposium.org/symposium2009/proceedings/ambisym09-bertetdanielparizetwarusfel-listeningev.pdf/at_download/file

http://harpex.net/harpex.pdf

Svein Berge
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