i always thought that it is impossible to actually know the state of every gate 
and shift register in a cpu. so it is not deterministic
 
umashankar

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> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:48:22 -0700
> From: gre...@math.ucla.edu
> To: sursound@music.vt.edu
> Subject: Re: [Sursound] distance perception in virtual environments(OT)
> 
> 
> The deterministic universe idea departed from serious science
> almost 100 years ago since qunatum mechanics is by nature 
> nondeterministic. (More precisely, 80 some years ago if you want to wait 
> for people to have realized exactly how intrinsic the nondeterminacy
> was--Heisenberg formulated his uncertainty principle in 1927 as I recall).
> On the other hand, it is not clear to me that this really affects
> computers directly.
> They do freeze up at what appear to be random times and for unknown 
> reasons. But I would be prepared to believe that they are not truly
> random if one could look down in the works as it were.
> But no one scientific seriously doubts that the universe is 
> nondeterministic.
> 
> Robert
> 
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