2011/4/2 Marc Lavallée <m...@hacklava.net>

> Sat, 2 Apr 2011 12:38:50 +0200,
> Svein Berge <sve...@pvv.org> wrote :
>
> > > My personalized demo works in Linux with jackd when using the
> > > dssi-vst host. And it works very well.
> > >
> > >
> > Congrats! I tried to compile vst/wine support into ardour, but after a
> > couple of hours of messing about, gave up on it (couldn't start
> > ardour after recompilation).
>
> Ardour cannot be distributed with wine/vst support compiled in, but it
> can be connected through jackd to one of the Linux VST hosts (which are
> easier to compile). It is not ideal because there's a little overhead
> when running Windows binaries on Linux using the Wine compatibility
> layer.
>
> > I've also tried to understand lv2, but
> > haven't found any finite and sufficient source of information about
> > it. However, that's probably just a matter of spending enough time
> > trawling the internet for the required pieces of information.
> > It didn't get very high priority because I've never heard about anyone
> > actually paying hard currency for a plugin on linux. That renders any
> > time spent on a commercial linux plugin wasted. BUT, if Jörn tells us
> > that there actually exist such people in this universe, then that
> > might change things. One paying customer is not enough, but if I get
> > four firm orders for an lv2 version, I'll make it.
>
> Free-software/Open-source/Linux communities can pay hard currency for
> free (as in speech) software. They also like to help for free.
> You are using the Juce framework for your C++ development,
> which is a free software, you know how valuable it is.
>

I have a commercial license for juce. It was not free.


>
> > However, not all linux users may want lv2. Fons has previously asked
> > for a jack-enabled stand-alone application instead. That would mean a
> > third product in addition to the plugin and player, which is a bit of
> > a support nightmare.
>
> Plugin hosts can work with jackd, and it's adequate for me.
>
> You should take a look at the Jost plugin host (also based on Juce):
> http://www.anticore.org/jucetice/?page_id=4
> It is licensed under the LGPL, so it might be compatible (to some
> extent) with your proprietary software.
>
> > If the current player supports jack, that is entirely unintended.
> > It is intended as a player, i.e. an application
> > which sends sound to a soundcard. It supports ALSA and OSS, I think.
>
> The player for Linux has support for ALSA (OSS is deprecated)
> Here's how to list linked libraries:
> $ ldd harpex-b (look for libasound)
> There's no support for jack (libjack) or pulseaudio (libpulse).
>
> About your licenses: I had to ask for the demos in order to read their
> licenses. They are quite restrictive licenses, and users might infringe
> them easily without bad intentions. Please publish the text of
> those licenses on your site.
>
> > 2011/4/2 Marc Lavallée <m...@hacklava.net>
> > >
> > > But it works as long as I am connected to the Internet; it
> > > sends a long and unique identification message to
> > > http://harpex.net/license.php, and the immediate response alloys
> > > the plugin to work after displaying the amount of time left in demo
> > > mode. Since this mechanism is not explained (appart from a vague
> > > reference to "activation" in the license), the demo I installed is
> > > technically a sneakyware...
> > >
> > >
> > That depends on your technical definition of "sneakyware". It seems
> > to me that most programs these days call home for one reason or
> > another. The reason it requires a network connection during the trial
> > period is obviously to prevent indefinite "trials". Once you activate
> > your copy, it stops calling home. I will see if I can find a suitable
> > place to inform user about this, so it isn't perceived as "sneaky".
>
> It would be nice to explain this "calling home" mechanism in your
> licenses. IMO, DRM-like strategies are counter-productive; your
> potential clients should be able to understand licenses and respect
> them.
>
>
I've done one better: I've added a big, clear note about it in the download
mail. It can't be missed.

I am now considering to drop linux support. It seems to me that dipping your
toe in linux audio without going all the way, i.e. open source, is nothing
but a way to draw flac.

Svein
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