i still have that floppy lp (and probably audio too) somewhere
 
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> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 20:24:20 -0700
> From: gre...@math.ucla.edu
> To: sursound@music.vt.edu
> Subject: Re: [Sursound] cross-talk cancellation used in binaural sound 
> reproduction
> 
> 
> I can confirm the small sweet spot of the Carver device.
> (or encoding that way).
> One really has to measure
> quite exactly where the speakers are and where one is one's self.
> But it is pretty cool when it is all dialed in, in spite of
> the things Ralph (correctly) notes.
> I still have one around and I put it up every once in a while.
> 
> I recall the plastic floppy(small LP) disc insert in Audio, where
> I first heard it. I shall never forget my first listen to "Dry Bones",
> with sounds all over the place. What a riot!
> I and my friends ran out and bought up a whole lot of copies
> of that issue of Audio to get some extras of the disc insert.
> Eventually I got the device itself. But that first listen
> to Dry Bones remains really something.
> 
> Ah the good old days....
> 
> Robert
> 
> On Sun, 13 Mar 2011, Ralph Glasgal wrote:
> 
> > Sorry I am a little behind on the latest threads.
> >
> > Bob Carver's Sonic Hologram was a pioneering attempt at crosstalk 
> > cancelation. 
> > Considering the processors he had to work with, is amzing that it works as 
> > well
> > as it did.  He once told me that the little box version was the best seller 
> > he
> > ever had.  After hearing an Ambiophonic demonstration he decided to again
> > include the sonic holography feature in his Sunfire home theater products. 
> >  
> > But it had the following difficulties.  It was not recursive so that it only
> > cancelled the initial crosstalk and not the next crosstalk caused by
> > the first cancellation and so on.  It had almost no adjustments for speaker
> > angle and the box did not allow for the speakers to be placed much closer
> > together where the results would have been much better especially for the
> > pinna.  It also did cancellation at frequencies where there was no 
> > crosstalk to
> > cancel.  The result was that the sweet area was small and many users could 
> > not
> > really get it working with their speakers and rooms.  The Lexicon Panorama 
> > mode
> > had similar problems.
> >
> > Ralph Glasgal
> > www.ambiophonics.org   
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Robert Greene <gre...@math.ucla.edu>
> > To: Surround Sound discussion group <sursound@music.vt.edu>
> > Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 1:15:40 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Sursound] cross-talk cancellation used in binaural sound
> > reproduction
> >
> > I suppose that someone ought to mention-so I shall--
> > the Carver Sonic Hologram.
> > You can still find the devices around(they were
> > crosstalk cancellation processors).
> > They work really well, if you do not
> > mind sitting really still in one spot
> > (which of course you are going to have
> > to do for any such system with only two speakers).
> > And the nice thing is the Sonic Hologram sounds good-
> > it does minimal damage to the music.
> >
> > It is interesting--sort of tells you where the industry was
> > and still is on surround and so on--that Martin Colloms
> > writing about the Sonic Hologram in HiFiNews
> > says that it definitely makes stereo better [and potentially
> > much better] but that it is just too much trouble...
> >
> > Robert
> >
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