Hi, On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:22 AM, João Santana <joaosant...@outlook.com>wrote:
> So we have another SABDFL among us. > If he wasn't a good leader, Ubuntu and all the other flavors will never achieve the current success. I had the chance to chat with him. He's nice. Don't judge people without being in contact with them or deal with them ;) I know what you think of him, that was clear in your above statement but again, without being in his shoes, you might not understand his actions :) I speak from 4 years now of being advocate and project manager of many project within Ubuntu Family. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad I'd appreciate if we could please show more respect to the man who made all this possible :) Thanks! > > Yes, I understand you. Believe me, I was a LoCo Team leader before, and I > had this kind of situation at my hands a couple of times. But by exposing > something you consider an error or confusion in that way you'll not be able > to build a perennial leadership in this community. > Yet again, I appreciate your feedback. I trust other members of this community trust my decisions as the founder :) > > You're our leader, not a angered teacher punishing who had a bad behaviour > in class. And leaders, at least some of them, doesn't expose other leaders > when those make something wrong; when they do this they weakens all the > leadership around. > I'm sorry if you felt this way but that wasn't in my intention nor in my mind. I have explained everything and case is closed now :) https://lists.launchpad.net/startubuntu/msg00357.html > > This is not the first time I see you using acidity to expose your > grievance or dissatisfaction with something. And while acknowledging that > this is something yours, I think you should soften it, leastways when > leading other leaders. > > Lack of sleep for a week was the reason why my email wasn't soft enough but I'll work on more next time :) To close this, once and for all, I have explained myself well, I believe: https://lists.launchpad.net/startubuntu/msg00357.html I see no harm if before creating anything, any member can approach me or simply log a blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/startubuntu I was unhappy because I have explained that before and I thought it was clear. I hope it is extra clear now :) Let's move forward, please :) > > João Santana > > Enviado pelo meu Windows Phone > Thank you! P.S. These are my contacts: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad#Contacts Feel free to contact me anytime and this goes for everyone! > ------------------------------ > De: Ali Linx <ali.li...@amjjawad.net> > Enviada em: 03/04/2014 17:48 > Para: João Santana <joaosant...@outlook.com>; Caleb > Howland<sonikkuamerica...@live.com>; > startubuntu@lists.launchpad.net > > Cc: ubuntugnome-co...@lists.launchpad.net; > lubuntu-co...@lists.launchpad.net > Assunto: Re: [Ubuntugnome-comms] [Startubuntu] [StartUbuntu] IRC channel > (re-)creation in progress > > > On 04/04/2014 12:45 AM, João Santana wrote: > > IMHO. This is the kind of issue that should be treated in private, not > in that way. > > Thanks for your opinion but I'd prefer to do it this way so the same > mistake (IMHO) or 'confusion' won't happen again :) > > Thanks for your understanding! > > After all, I'm just saying or explaining the correct way to do such > things. We have agreed months from now that creating any new channel no > matter what should be under my direct approval :) > > Thank you! > > > João Santana > > Enviado pelo meu Windows Phone > ------------------------------ > De: Ali Linx <ali.li...@amjjawad.net> > Enviada em: 03/04/2014 16:33 > Para: Caleb Howland <sonikkuamerica...@live.com>; > startubuntu@lists.launchpad.net > Cc: ubuntugnome-co...@lists.launchpad.net; > lubuntu-co...@lists.launchpad.net > Assunto: Re: [Ubuntugnome-comms] [Startubuntu] [StartUbuntu] IRC channel > (re-)creation in progress > > > On 04/03/2014 09:18 PM, Caleb Howland wrote: > > Hello StartUbuntu Project members, > > > > Hi, > > > > I am in the process of creating a new IRC channel, as we are > > technically a part of the Ubuntu IRC network. It will be called > > #ubuntu-start (instead of #start-ubuntu, as previously stated in the > > wiki, because the #start- name implies a part of the START network). > > > > While your intention is good, you haven't asked me before you do such a > thing? this is not what we, as StartUbuntu Community have agreed on > months ago! > Also, why would you create a new channel and we do have one? > #start-ubuntu was the IRC channel for StartUbuntu and to me, I see no > reason why someone should create yet another one? I'm confused? > > > > > Communications Teams members, I CC you because you are both > > instrumental in collaborating with the StartUbuntu project. > > > > Kindly make sure to communicate with me 'first' before you carry on and > create anything extra and not needed. Why? to avoid unnecessary confusion! > > > > > Caleb Howland (SonikkuAmerica) > > StartUbuntu Project > > Lubuntu Comms > > Ubuntu GNOME Comms > > > Thank you! > > -- > Ali/amjjawad > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad > > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugnome-comms > Post to : ubuntugnome-co...@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugnome-comms > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > -- > Ali/amjjawadhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad > > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugnome-comms > Post to : ubuntugnome-co...@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugnome-comms > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > -- Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." Best Regards, amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> Areas of Involvement <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement> My Projects <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects>
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