you can't have the heads on pendant drops without a return bend.


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On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 7:28 AM JD Gamble <[email protected]> wrote:

> I’m with Ben, the delivery time is what’s going to slam the door closed on
> going Dry without some deep thought.
>
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> *From:* Jay Google <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 3, 2025 6:59:58 AM
> *To:* Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers <
> [email protected]>
> *Subject:* [Sprinklerforum] Changing Antifreeze to Dry System
>
> Thanks for the responses.  This group always helps with things you know,
> but haven't done for a while and refreshes our memories, especially old
> ones!
>
> *Jay Stough*
> *Tustin Fire Solutions*
>
>
> On Thursday, April 3, 2025 at 08:37:35 AM EDT, Ed Kramer <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Jay, check out section 27.2.4.7.2 in NFPA 13 (2019).  It might allow you
> to omit several sprinks in those small closets from the calc.
>
>
>
> Ed K
>
> Bamford Fire
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Jay Google <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 3, 2025 6:26 AM
> *To:* Sprinkler Forum <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* [Sprinklerforum] Changing Antifreeze to Dry System
>
>
>
> We have a customer that wants to change the existing antifreeze to a dry
> system.  All the sprinklers on the system are pendents on drops.  It is a
> pipe schedule system.  I think the best way to do this is keep the existing
> piping, change the sprinklers and verify the pipe is pitched correctly to
> drain as required or add low point drains if needed.  This way the
> sprinklers line up with existing holes from the attic.  The building is an
> independent living building (light hazard/residential).  My questions are
> 1) does the system need to be calculated since it's a pipe schedule and 2)
> If so, can we use the room design method on a dry system?  We are on the
> 2019 edition of NFPA 13.  I did not see anything in chapter 19 on using
> room design for dry systems and don't recall ever seeing that.  With that
> in mind, if we calculate the 1950 sq. ft., there are a lot of closets
> included in that that kill the calculations.
>
>   The building was built in 1999, of course no drawings and the pipe looks
> as good as new inside and out.
>
>
>
> *Jay Stough*
>
> *Tustin Fire Solutions *
>
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