If I’m understanding these sections correctly, the occupancy above only really 
makes a difference for porte-cocheres (9.2.3.2.1).

Otherwise, I think the need for sprinkler protection or not is determined by 
construction type (combustible vs non-combustible), presence/storage of 
combustibles, etc.

-Kyle M

From: Ken Wagoner <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 11:02 AM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Sprinklerforum] Re: canopy with occupancy above

9. 3. 19 and 9. 3. 20 in the '22 edition. Ken Wagoner, SET Parsley Consulting 
500 West Mechanic Street Harrisonville, Missouri 64701-2235 Phone: (760) 
745-6181 Visit the website On 10/26/2023 12: 15 PM, Mike Klingler wrote: NFPA 
13 (2016) 8. 15. 6

9.3.19 and 9.3.20 in the '22 edition.
Ken Wagoner, SET
Parsley Consulting
500 West Mechanic Street
Harrisonville, Missouri 64701-2235
Phone: (760) 745-6181
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On 10/26/2023 12:15 PM, Mike Klingler wrote:
NFPA 13 (2016) 8.15.6 or 8.15.7.

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From: Matt Grise <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 1:09 PM
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Subject: [Sprinklerforum] canopy with occupancy above

I often see requests/requirements to protect under canopies that would normally 
be excluded by NFPA 13 due to the fact that they have occupancy above.

for example - a non-combustible canopy with no storage, that has chairs on top 
of it (assembly space). or a second story that extends out farther than the 
footprint of the first story.

Is there a code requirement for this? Is it just something that people have 
become used to doing? I have looked around and I just can't find it!

Thanks!

Matt





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