Yeah, but the commodity is really the plastic container, right? Is the open-top container/tote still an issue from code standpoint if it's only ever on the lowest level? I thought the real problem with open-top containers that catch water was when they are above ground level. In this case, the container wouldn't be stopping the water from reaching the commodity. And one would assume that the racks are designed to accommodate a container full of liquid on the lowest level, so I wouldn't anticipate a structural issue with sprinkler water filling the open container.
-Kyle M -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Mackinnon via Sprinklerforum Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2022 11:46 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Steve Mackinnon <[email protected]>; Art Tiroly <[email protected]> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: question about Storage height Thank you everyone who replied, it appears it's not as clear cut as one would think lol. The plastic tote below does have a solid top, but I would assume there would be opening in the cover to allow any spillage or leaks to fall into the vessel. And allow any sprinkler water to fill the totes... but again, these are one time usage only. Not sure if it helps, but there are only 3-5 of these in the warehouse... I just find it hard to wrap my head around protecting 10 foot of storage for only 5 feet of commodity. Thank you again! -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Art Tiroly via Sprinklerforum Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2022 1:35 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Art Tiroly <[email protected]> Subject: RE: question about Storage height Is the spill container open top? That will be an issue. These sound like plastic totes. If the liquid is not combustible the empty tote is still a lot of plastic Art -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Scott Futrell via Sprinklerforum Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2022 9:32 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Scott Futrell <[email protected]>; Mike Hairfield <[email protected]> Subject: RE: question about Storage height You didn't mention what the liquid is. If it is a hazardous material as recognized by the International Fire Code then the 'empty' container is still considered full unless completely cleaned. Scott Office: (763) 425-1001 x 2 Cell: (612) 759-5556 -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike Hairfield via Sprinklerforum Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2022 8:08 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Mike Hairfield <[email protected]> Subject: Re: question about Storage height It should be 10 feet even though the other container is empty it's still plastic. Mike ________________________________ From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> on behalf of Steve Mackinnon via Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2022 9:02 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Cc: Steve Mackinnon <[email protected]>; Peter Howard <[email protected]> Subject: question about Storage height Good morning all, We have a storage situation where the liquid commodity is in a 5 foot plastic storage cube, with an equally sized empty plastic container below. The empty container below is only there to act as a spill collection vessel. The question our office has been banging around, what is the storage height??? Would this be considered 5 feet of storage or 10 feet? Would you take any exception to the plastic containers (like when we change the commodity classification with wood to plastic pallets)? Thank you in advance Steven _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http*3A*2F*2Flists.firesp__;JSUl!!Ba8_KKAT!bhK9lo5RKIAANSjG2ZShIdM15axf0XxnEDish6T1WT1VQrln0OlWqINa-pbXyh3-keo$ rinkler.org%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Fsprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org&data=04%7C 01%7C%7C0d961840310a423de85308d9e0d49405%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa% 7C1%7C0%7C637788025897874973%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJ QIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=gZPzEokK%2FC%2F BPf%2FyCzVVjYGR3%2FRAFZEAkLsE2Cn2Qjk%3D&reserved=0 _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org__;!!Ba8_KKAT!bhK9lo5RKIAANSjG2ZShIdM15axf0XxnEDish6T1WT1VQrln0OlWqINa-pbXvmsgmwM$ _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org__;!!Ba8_KKAT!bhK9lo5RKIAANSjG2ZShIdM15axf0XxnEDish6T1WT1VQrln0OlWqINa-pbXvmsgmwM$ _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org__;!!Ba8_KKAT!bhK9lo5RKIAANSjG2ZShIdM15axf0XxnEDish6T1WT1VQrln0OlWqINa-pbXvmsgmwM$ _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org__;!!Ba8_KKAT!bhK9lo5RKIAANSjG2ZShIdM15axf0XxnEDish6T1WT1VQrln0OlWqINa-pbXvmsgmwM$ _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
