Hi Greg,
The use of HbH EH does not fit well in the case of SRH. Indeed, with the 
AltMark HbH Option, it is possible to monitor every router on the path with 
feature enabled, so it potentially allows the measurement to every nodes in the 
path and not only to the nodes that are identities in the SR path.
While, with the Destination Option preceding a Routing Header, it is possible 
to apply the measurement to every destination node in the route list. This 
means that, when the AltMark Destination Option precedes the SRH, it allows the 
measurement for all the nodes that are identities in the SR path.
The solution with SRH TLV is equivalent to DOH + SRH, but it can be an 
optimized solution for SRH since it leverages the SRH TLV capability, without 
adding an additional EH that can be a problem in some cases.

Regards,

Giuseppe


From: Greg Mirsky <gregimir...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, November 8, 2021 2:57 PM
To: Giuseppe Fioccola <giuseppe.fiocc...@huawei.com>
Cc: draft-fz-spring-srv6-alt-m...@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; i...@ietf.org
Subject: Re: A question for draft-fz-spring-srv6-alt-mark

Hi Giuseppe,
thank you for the detailed explanation of what the authors consider as the 
problem. In the presentation, you've mentioned that the new AltMark SRH TLV 
allows for better control of which nodes along an SR Policy participate in the 
measurement. I imagine that the HbH IPv6 extension header that includes the 
AltMark TLV can be used to achieve the same result if only SR nodes are enabled 
for the AltMark processing. What do you think of using the HbH EH? Am I missing 
something?

Regards,
Greg

On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 1:13 AM Giuseppe Fioccola 
<giuseppe.fiocc...@huawei.com<mailto:giuseppe.fiocc...@huawei.com>> wrote:
Hi Greg,
Thank you for your comment.
It is very good to have your support on this draft.
draft-ietf-6man-ipv6-alt-mark defines the AltMark DOH. In case of SRH, DOH + 
SRH can be used to implement the measurement for every node that is an identity 
in the SR path.
But, the approach with DOH + SRH requires two extension headers and this can 
have operational implications.
The goal of this draft is to find an optimized solution that best suits for 
SRH. Therefore we propose to use the SRH TLV. If accepted, this document would 
update draft-ietf-6man-ipv6-alt-mark only for SRv6:

- in case of SRH there would be a single way to apply AltMark through SRH TLV,

- while for all the other cases with IPv6 data plane the use of the HbH and DOH 
is the only choice to carry AltMark data fields.



Regards,



Giuseppe


From: Greg Mirsky <gregimir...@gmail.com<mailto:gregimir...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Sunday, November 7, 2021 9:01 PM
To: 
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Subject: A question for draft-fz-spring-srv6-alt-mark

Dear Authors et al.
thank you for this document. I am supporting and following the work on the 
Alternate Marking method in various IETF WGs. What do you see as the benefits 
of defining a new SRH TLV for the Alternate Marking method compared to 
solutions defined for IPv6 in 
draft-ietf-6man-ipv6-alt-mark<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6man-ipv6-alt-mark/>?

Regards,
Greg
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