Il 2020-02-27 02:14, Brian E Carpenter ha scritto:
Eric,

On 27-Feb-20 12:18, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) wrote:
Writing this without any hat,

Please note that on the logical side, it still have to be "proven" that this 
idea is strictly forbidden by RFC 8200.

The draft uses an undefined term ("pop") but it does *explicitly* state in a section 
called "Penultimate Segment Pop of the SRH":

S14.4.      Remove the SRH from the IPv6 extension header chain

If the word "penultimate" means what it means in every dictionary, this is 
in-flight removal of a header, and that is explicitly against RFC 8200, section 4, first 
paragraph below the diagram.

Brian,

"penultimate segment" means what it means in every dictionary, but this is not in-fligth removal of a header.

When the packet has reached the "penultimate segment", it has reached a node "identified in the Destination Address field of the IPv6 header" as stated in RFC 8200, section 4, first paragraph below the diagram

Please note that at the very end of section 3 the "Destination address" is defined as "address of the intended recipient of the packet (possibly not the ultimate recipient, if a Routing header is present)"

Stefano


It's possible that "penultimate" means something else, e.g. "ultimate". I don't know. 
I've been puzzling over this language for months and it doesn't change. Maybe someone can finally post an 
explanation, but until they do, I don't see how any WG Chair could assert rough consensus. An obviously 
organised +1+1+1+1 campaign is not consensus. I don't know about you, but when I see a message whose only 
content is "+1" I just delete it.

    Brian

Moreover, this 'proof' can technically wait until the IETF last call or even 
until the IESG ballot. I see little point in postponing the closing of the WGLC 
and advancing the document (of course, the document shepherd will need to 
carefully write the section about the rough WG consensus).

Finally, as far as I know, at the IETF we have no religion... else we would 
still be running NCP or IPv4 :-)

-éric

-----Original Message-----
From: ipv6 <ipv6-boun...@ietf.org> on behalf of Warren Kumari 
<war...@kumari.net>

...%<...%<....
It doesn't really matter how many people say +1 for moving it forwards
     -- if there are valid technical objections these have to be dealt with
     - and I think that the relationship with RFC8200 falling into this
     category...

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