Hi Stephane,

On 21 Jul 2014, at 22:52, <stephane.litkow...@orange.com> 
<stephane.litkow...@orange.com> wrote:

> Hi Rob,
> 
> Many thanks to raise this important subject back on the table.
> Entropy label in SPRING is mainly a matter of what are the current 
> capabilities of our favorite vendor's current HW ... Unfortunately, I think 
> we are touching something quite "secret"  and vendors would not share their 
> issues publicly :)

There are two things that we need to achieve w.r.t SR/MPLS and EL from my 
perspective:

1) How do we exploit EL with *today’s* hardware such that SR LSPs can be 
efficiently load shared?
2) Going forward, which of the approaches that this draft identifies for 
dealing with deep label stacks produced by SR/MPLS should we optimise for?

So, yes, I agree that there’s something around current capabilities that we 
need to figure out — but equally, I’d like to visit question (2), such that we 
can see whether the WG thinks that it is possible that we can reach a 
recommendation and hence future hardware revisions can potentially focus on 
optimising for one particular SR/MPLS + EL approach. 

> I think some options may also introduce some "HW capability" issues :
> - reusable EL and EL top of the stack  : need multiple MPLS operation , so it 
> may require forwarding feedback loops on some HWs reducing the forwarding 
> capacity
> 
> Personally, I don't like (hate :) ), the multiple EL/ELI (at each tunnel 
> level or at specific point of insertion) because it would again reduce the 
> available MTU for the customer jumbo frames.

ACK — this is one of the reasons that I would like to understand the author’s 
intentions on this draft. At the moment, the draft is a taxonomy of the 
approaches, but rather stops short of making any recommendations. It sounds 
like you’d be supportive of asking the authors to extend this draft to making a 
recommendation? :-)

Cheers,
r.

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