i would be happy to. i've attached an example to this email. you'll note that the message contains ads for toner in the footer and also gets a few points for the mention of "free membership!", and that's all well and good. however, no points are deducted by virtue of it being posted to a yahoo group.
so, to illustrate my point, i've attached two messages. the first message was marked as spam by spamassassin 2.60. it has the subject line "Duck rescue". the second message was NOT marked as spam by spamassassin 2.55. it has the subject line "Ducks Freed from Foie Gras Farm". both messages were posted to the same yahoo group and have roughly the same kind of content, so it should be easy to compare how spamassassin is treating the two messages. you'll note that 2.55 deducts points, by virtue of the mail being posted to a yahoo group, but 2.60 is more ruthless and makes no attempt to compensate for a false positive. like i said in my original mail, in 2.55, the file 20_compensate.cf contained numerous checks for false positives, including checks for yahoo groups. in 2.60, there are only three lines. On 09/24/03, Martin Radford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At Wed Sep 24 08:32:18 2003, Steve Simitzis wrote: > > > ever since i upgraded from 2.55 to 2.60, i've had lots of problems > > with mailing lists getting marked as spam. specifically, any yahoo > > group mailing list i'm on is getting treated as spam. > > > > i looked into this further, and it seems that the rules file > > 20_compensate.cf seems to be almost empty in 2.60, whereas it > > once contained a long list of handy rules to prevent false > > positives, in 2.55. > > It would be really useful if you could post a copy (headers and body) > of a sample message. Without that, one can only speculate. You could > also open a bug at http://bugzilla.spamassassin.org and attach a copy > of a message to that. > > > was this change done intentionally? if so, it's very unpleasant and i > > hope it can be fixed. and if not, what should i do to return my email > > back to normal? is it safe to use all of the rules from the 2.55 > > distribution while running 2.60? > > No. The rules go with the release. You may well find that it simply > doesn't work. > > Martin > -- > Martin Radford | "Only wimps use tape backup: _real_ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | men just upload their important stuff -o) > Registered Linux user #9257 | on ftp and let the rest of the world /\\ > - see http://counter.li.org | mirror it ;)" - Linus Torvalds _\_V > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Spamassassin-talk mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk -- steve simitzis : /sim' - i - jees/ pala : saturn5 productions www.steve.org : 415.282.9979 hath the daemon spawn no fire?
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Sep 23 23:21:05 2003 Received: from localhost [127.0.0.1] by atari with SpamAssassin (2.60-rc6 1.208-2003-09-19-exp); Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:21:08 -0700 From: "Pete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "diana marmorstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "sfbaveg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [sfBAVeg] Duck rescue Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:10:55 -0700 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-rc6 (1.208-2003-09-19-exp) on atari X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=5.1 required=5.0 tests=BANG_MORE,FREE_MEMBERSHIP, TONER autolearn=no version=2.60-rc6 X-Spam-Level: ***** MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_3F7137D4.B9BC9E1B" Status: RO Content-Length: 7598 Lines: 173 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------------=_3F7137D4.B9BC9E1B Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Spam detection software, running on the system "atari", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or block similar future email. If you have any questions, see [EMAIL PROTECTED] for details. Content preview: Hi Diana, Thanks for your thoughtful suggestions on how I can put my legal expertise to good use to help the work of the non-violent activists whose recent successful duck rescue I cheered. However, I've already decided on another option. The day I heard about the duck rescue I offered my professional legal services on a pro-bono (no-charge) basis to the possible defendants in an e-mail to Carla. I hope these four heroes don't face prosecution, but should they need me, I'd be proud to represent them just as I have so many other animal activists before them. I hope that meets with your approval. [...] Content analysis details: (5.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.6 FREE_MEMBERSHIP BODY: Free Membership 1.3 TONER BODY: Contains "Toner Cartridge" 1.2 BANG_MORE BODY: Talks about more with an exclamation! ------------=_3F7137D4.B9BC9E1B Content-Type: message/rfc822; x-spam-type=original Content-Description: original message before SpamAssassin Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 10935 invoked from network); 23 Sep 2003 23:21:03 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.78) by 0 with SMTP; 23 Sep 2003 23:21:03 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [66.218.66.156] by n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2003 06:21:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 60926 invoked from network); 24 Sep 2003 06:21:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Sep 2003 06:21:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.68) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Sep 2003 06:21:00 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [66.218.66.143] by n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2003 06:21:00 -0000 X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 18894 invoked from network); 24 Sep 2003 06:10:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Sep 2003 06:10:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) (4.17.179.4) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Sep 2003 06:10:56 -0000 Received: from pete (node-40244862.sfo.onnet.us.uu.net [64.36.72.98]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h8O6IYkS014975; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 02:18:34 -0400 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "diana marmorstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "sfbaveg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 From: "Pete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Yahoo-Profile: rbtr8or X-eGroups-Approved-By: veggierebel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> via web; 24 Sep 2003 06:20:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:10:55 -0700 Subject: Re: [sfBAVeg] Duck rescue Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Diana, Thanks for your thoughtful suggestions on how I can put my legal expertise to good use to help the work of the non-violent activists whose recent successful duck rescue I cheered. However, I've already decided on another option. The day I heard about the duck rescue I offered my professional legal services on a pro-bono (no-charge) basis to the possible defendants in an e-mail to Carla. I hope these four heroes don't face prosecution, but should they need me, I'd be proud to represent them just as I have so many other animal activists before them. I hope that meets with your approval. Best wishes, Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: diana marmorstein To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [sfBAVeg] Duck rescue Pete, Here is a superb opportunity for you to demonstrate your law-abiding animal advocacy. If these direct actions are to have lasting impact, a law must be passed, at least here in California, banning this kind of duck farming. This is the time to do it--fresh on the heels of relatively extensive positive publicity. So I suggest that you, being as legal-minded as you are, draft a bill for the California legislature and meet with your representative to request that he/she sponsor it for you. You can also enlist the help of Virginia Handley in finding cosponsors. And of course, you should send out press releases and contact the reporters who did the previous stories to continue the public awareness campaign. I'm sure that Viva! and FFA will be happy to distribute leaflets and postcards to encourage people to support your bill. You see, there's no need to cheer from the sidelines. Here's a grand opportunity for you to put that legal expertise to good use. sincerely, diana _________________________________________________________________ Add MSN 8 Internet Software to your existing Internet access and enjoy patented spam protection and more. Sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/byoa Yahoo! 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>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Sep 18 18:39:21 2003 Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 7672 invoked from network); 18 Sep 2003 18:39:21 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.78) by 0 with SMTP; 18 Sep 2003 18:39:21 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [66.218.67.201] by n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Sep 2003 01:39:20 -0000 X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 86333 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2003 01:39:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Sep 2003 01:39:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp806.mail.sc5.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.185) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Sep 2003 01:39:18 -0000 Received: from adsl-64-168-12-78.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net (HELO jack1) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]@64.168.12.78 with login) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Sep 2003 01:39:17 -0000 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "SFBAveg list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 From: "Jack Norris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Yahoo-Profile: b12boy2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 18:39:19 -0700 Subject: [sfBAVeg] Ducks Freed from Foie Gras Farm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=BANG_MORE,FREE_MEMBERSHIP,FROM_EGROUPS,GROUPS_YAHOO_1,TONER version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Status: RO Content-Length: 8692 Lines: 99 http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-foiegras18sep18,1,7982772.story Activists Take Ducks From Foie Gras Shed Birds were destined to be killed to provide a culinary delicacy. Business owner is outraged. FARMINGTON, Calif. - With only the dim light of a half-moon to guide them, four self-proclaimed "duck freedom fighters" made their way early Wednesday across an abandoned field, around dilapidated, foul-smelling chicken pens, and over a narrow passage through a large manure-filled pond. After a difficult 1 1/2-mile hike, Bryan Pease, Kath Rodgers, Carla Brauer and a man who refused to identify himself reached the Sonoma Foie Gras duck shed. Soon, four Peking-Muscovy ducks were free. The group had been eyeing the site for weeks in preparation for this mission, which they hoped would save the lives of a few ducks that were scheduled to be killed to produce foie gras, an expensive culinary delicacy often sold at high-end restaurants. The participants said the cause is important enough to justify their actions. But Sonoma Foie Gras owner Guillermo Gonzalez, when reached later about the incident, said he was outraged by people trespassing on his property and taking his animals. Although he had not yet noticed the four ducks missing, Gonzalez said charges should be brought if the birds were stolen. "Unfortunately, some activists hold animals in higher esteem than they do humans," said Gonzalez. "Our animals are treated humanely, and anybody who enters our farm can see that." To the four activists, animal cruelty is intrinsic to the production of foie gras, which requires ducks to be pneumatically force-fed large amounts of a corn-based meal in order to enlarge their livers. The controversial feeding practice takes place twice a day over the four-week period before a duck is slaughtered. The group had conducted such operations previously as part of what it calls "the underground railroad for ducks." But this one was a bit more complicated. The night before, a Bay Area television station had aired portions of a video the four, members of an ad-hoc animal rights group that calls itself the Animal Protection and Rescue League, had shot earlier this year showing conditions at the farm. "This may not be as easy tonight," said Pease, a veteran of several duck releases, as he crossed through a field in the still night. "After the video, there may be someone there waiting for us." The video had been released by Gourmet Cruelty, an animal rights group that has launched efforts to ban foie gras production in California. Its graphic footage detailed the living conditions of ducks at Sonoma Foie Gras, one of only two producers of the delicacy in the U.S. and the only one in California. Sonoma Foie Gras leases sheds and some land here, near Stockton. Pease, like the others, was wearing disinfected clothes, rubber boots, and surgical masks and gloves in order to prevent the spread of Exotic Newcastle Disease, which has recently killed millions of poultry animals in California. When he realized that his bolt cutters would not do the job on new locks that had been installed at the shed, he quietly tiptoed around the building, just a few yards from the homes of sleeping Sonoma Foie Gras employees, and found an alternative entry: an unsophisticated air-conditioning system made of porous, accordion-like plastic under a constant shower of water. "We're not about property destruction," Pease whispered to his companions as he labored to remove the long plastic sheet without causing damage. "We're going to leave this thing just as we found it." After the plastic was removed, Rodgers, the smallest of the four, squeezed her way into the shed, and let out a mild yelp as her wet skin made contact with electrified chicken wire used to keep rats out of the building. Making her way through the dark, she groped to find a side door to open for her companions to enter. For 45 minutes, the four surveyed the inside of the large shed, shooting video of the conditions and inspecting each of the 1,500 or so ducks in the building. Then the group chose the four ducks they deemed "in most need," carefully placed them in two large plastic bins they had brought, and made their way back to the Ford van they had rented for the trip. "These are too heavy," Rodgers said of the 40-pound bins - each carrying two ducks - she and a companion carried. As the ducks bumped against the green plastic containers in en effort to get out, Rodgers tried to console them by whispering to them: "We're almost there, little ones." Sonoma Foie Gras has been in business for nearly 20 years, but it has come under attack recently from animal-rights activists. In late July, activists vandalized two homes, including one owned by well-known San Francisco chef Laurent Manrique, and caused a flood in a historic 19th-century adobe building in Sonoma. Manrique is a partner with Sonoma Foie Gras owner Gonzalez in a separate business venture: a bistro that is scheduled to open across from the downtown plaza in Sonoma this fall. If "ducks were stolen and the thieves are identified," Gonzalez said, he would seek charges against the perpetrators. "It's a matter of principle," he said. "It's not about four ducks. It's that they are abusing my rights as both a businessman and as a human being." Gonzalez said there had been several early morning break-ins into his farm in recent months. He acknowledged that "parts of the video" shown on the local television report were of his property. But he said that he cannot confirm that "the more gruesome images" were filmed on his farm because they were close-ups. Pease says trespassing and taking ducks is "not a violation of the law." During the two-hour drive to a large home in the foothills area where the ducks were to be dropped off for rehabilitation, he said, "We are upholding California's anti-animal cruelty law We're going in with the purpose of providing veterinarian care to the animals that need it." Along the drive, the group stopped often to check on the ducks' conditions. The largest of the four, with green dye along its throat that marked its imminent slaughter, was barely mobile. "I'm very afraid about this one," said a close-to-tears Brauer as she leaned into the back of the van to pet the duck along the top of its head and back. "I don't know if he'll make it." At 5 a.m., the group reached the safe house, a large log-framed home in a valley ringed by heavily forested hills. Waiting for them was an avian veterinarian. The vet peered into the bins carrying the ducks and ordered that they be whisked into the house. The vet immediately set to work on the largest and most ill of the four, pointing to a large amount of regurgitated food - mostly consisting of large, unbroken hard kernels of corn - near where the duck's beak had rested. "He's just too weak," said the vet, while scooping up the bird. "It looks like he couldn't gather the strength to prevent the regurgitation from going back into his lungs." The vet passed a stethoscope along the duck's breast to gauge the animal's breathing. Suddenly, the duck jerked its head straight up, and then let it fall to the floor. "I'm sorry," the vet told the anxious onlookers. "He's gone." While Rodgers sobbed, Pease tried to console her. "At least he died here with people who were trying to save him and not those butchers," he said. The remaining three ducks were later taken to a partially covered structure elsewhere on the property. By Wednesday afternoon, said the home's owner, all three were waddling around and drinking water. Pease said he believes any future "rescue efforts at Sonoma Foie Gras will be very difficult." "We'll keep on trying," he said, "because there are still many ducks there that need our help." [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Remanufactured Ink Cartridges & Refill Kits at MyInks.com for: HP $8-20. Epson $3-9, Canon $5-15, Lexmark $4-17. Free s/h over $50 (US & Canada). http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=6351 http://us.click.yahoo.com/0zJuRD/6CvGAA/qnsNAA/6iHolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> BAY AREA VEGETARIANS (BAV) is a community group for veggies to network & find support. 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