-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Tom Meunier wrote: > Hi Dave, hope I can help here beyond parroting what I've read & > played with...
Urghs. Seems to me that you used a figure of speech that I do not understand (I'm german). > I are but a simple sysadmin, not a programmer. I'm both, but I haven't programmed in perl yet :-) > Why would you want > the Bayes score wrapped into the decision about whether to learn it? I want the final score... see below. > If I get something *REALLY* spammy, high enough to be learned, but > then it scores BAYES_00, it may be dropped below my autolearn > threshold. That is the stuff I want going through bayes, not the > BAYES_99 stuff. See below... I have a different goal. [score in the "safety zone" is auto-learned] > I didn't see the complete debug output as it was processed by > SpamAssassin, so I can't really comment, except keep in mind that > Bayes autolearning uses either scoreset 0 or 1. This may be scoreset > 3 or 4, which may be different. I don't know. Ah. That may explain it. >> I'm curious about the "safety zone"... why did the programmer(s) >> decide to put it in? Even if they saw sense in it, most open source >> programs do let you make senseless configurations. Or, to say it >> in other words: They not only let you shoot yourself in the foot, >> they give you an assortment of guns already loaded and pointed >> downwards[2] :-) > > I imagine they define "shooting yourself in the foot" as exactly what > you're attempting to do. Unattended autolearning in the sweet spots > for false positives and false negatives. I'd never autolearn that > close to my threshold. I'd hand-feed. But I guess it's good that > they allow you to do it now. What I'm trying to do is described en detail on http://maligree.yi.org/imapspamfilter.php (working draft, not done yet). I want to sort my mails into three IMAP folders: NotSpam, DontKnow and Spam. What goes to NotSpam should be auto-learned as ham; what goes to Spam should be auto-learned as spam; messages to DontKnow should not be auto-learned. I patched an IMAP server to automatically feed mails manually moved into one of the folders NotSpam or Spam into sa-learn, so that the folders NotSpam and Spam only contain mails already learned. The mechanism I use to determine in which folder the mail will be stored is simple: maildrop (a tool similar to procmail) looks for the X-Spam-Level header and sorts the mail according to that header into the IMAP folders. So the final score counts. If auto-learning depends on another score than that one the sorting mechanism uses, some mails would not be fed into the bayes filter. Maybe I can configure maildrop to feed mails into sa-learn instead of configuring spamassassin to auto-learn, but I'm not sure about that... I hope I made my point clear; I'm not that good in english that I really know whether I'm making myself clear or not. cu Dave KLiczbor NB: You don't have to answer to both the list and my private address. The list would suffice, if that's not too much trouble for you :-) - -- Q: What do little WASPs want to be when they grow up? A: The very best person they can possibly be. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/Vmuu9gy0Ccu0VlMRAisFAJ9Od0NkHMQZyBs6qQ8CoDhSKDYwhgCfcpOF pTLRJJwVD+uvLLH2smjiyZs= =JA7Y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk