Update OSIRUSOFT issue:

I decided to go ahead and call Joe Jared since now our primary mail server
is now listed as well and I can't get mail to him.

################
 ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    (reason: 553 5.3.0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...  Mail from nitwit spammer
198.83.204.156 refused see
http://relays.osirusoft.com/cgi-bin/rbcheck.cgi?addr=198.83.204.156)

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
... while talking to relays.osirusoft.com.:
>>> MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SIZE=1524
<<< 553 5.3.0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...  Mail from nitwit spammer
198.83.204.156 refused see
http://relays.osirusoft.com/cgi-bin/rbcheck.cgi?addr=198.83.204.156
501 5.6.0 Data format error
####################

I find this quite silly, I scanned our mail logs and I can say with
certainty that spam is/has not been coming from our site.

Anyway, when I called Mr. Jared, he stated that everyone needs to stop using
Osirusoft and that he's going to be shutting the service down.  And I got
the impression that he's soon going to get his point across by blacklisting
the world.

I'm not alone in this problem, a check on google groups will tell all.

http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&fra
me=right&th=b43eeebc8f1bd08c&seekm=3LN2b.9658%24Ly2.1506055%40cletus.bright.
net#link1

> If you are using osirusoft to pull the Spamhaus SBL, and announcement was
> made by Steve Linford to stop using Osirusoft several weeks ago."

SpamAssassin is used by thousands of admins and the use of Osirusoft needs
to be reconsidered, especially with a new release coming out soon.  I would
appreciate any comments about this.


Regards,
Jim




-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James
Miller
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SAtalk] OSIRUSOFT -- should they be used any more?


With all the trouble OSIRUSOFT is having, is it time to stop using them?

As of 12:40 this afternoon our mail server stopped accepting mail from our
main web server because it was listed on osirusoft.  How I don't know since
it doesn't run an SMTP server -- it's protected by a dmz firewall which
allows 80-443 in, smtp 25 to our internal mail server and >1024 out to the
world, it's completely upto date, runs Norton virus scanner and tcpdump over
3 hrs only shows it sending messages to our internal mail server.  It's hard
coded to send billing, cancellation, reactivation messages to exactly one
mail server on the inside of our firewall.

news.admin.net-abuse.email is filled with messages/complains about them from
companies complaining that Joe Jared (founder of osirusoft and spews) isn't
responding to request to find out why their listed and how to get off the
list.

Also, it seems they are facing several law suites from several large
corporation.

And to add to it, they are (have been since Friday) under a DDoS attack,
their web site is down, mail is not flowing to them (because of the attack I
assume) and I don't know what to do to get us off the list before our class
'C' networks get added short of calling him or sending a fax.  But I've been
told that he will permanently black list anyone who calls or faxes him
directly.

I have complete removed all osirusoft check in SA and Sendmail.  It may be
time to completely remove them from SA all together.


Regards,
Jim




James Miller, MCSE
Network Administrator
Simutronics Corporation
www.play.net
636.946.4263 x113




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