> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Radford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 6:22 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Message ID
> 
> 
> At Tue Aug 26 04:55:01 2003, Larry Gilson wrote:
> > 
> > Thanks Carlo!  Looks like this test would not be good for a 
> relay that
> > accepts mail from MUAs.  However, it would probably be good 
> if one only
> > expects traffic from MTAs - like gateways.  I am surprised 
> to see Exchange
> > and GroupWise.  For Exchange, the OS must not have the 
> default suffix
> > configured.  Misconfigurations are worth adding a point or 
> two though.  I
> > have always setup mailservers with a hostname of 
> host.some.domain rather
> > than just host.  I guess that is not common(?).
> > 
> > Please let me know if anyone disagrees with this line of reasoning.
> 
> From my own collections:
>   
>            with FQDN            with hostname only
> ham:      2331 (85.6%)             391 (14.4%)
> spam:     1925 (76%)               608 (24%)
> 
> While I'm not very good with statistics, this rule doesn't look very
> good for distinguishing ham from spam.
> 
> Martin
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> 
> 

This discussion has helped me to see a pattern in some spam that has been
sneaking by. Why I agree that Message-ID without a .com is NOT a sure fire
spam tag, there are some message-ID patterns I have now seen. Not enough to
say "SPAM!". But enough to meta with about 3-4 other rules to be worth some
points. Should be just enough to throw the ones scoring 5.x to 7.x where
they won't get delivered to my users. 

I'm only testing now, so can't share yet. But maybe it will help you guys.
Take a look at the message-ID field itself. While the characters may be
random, you may see a pattern in them with other spam. 

hth

--Chris Santerre


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