----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Santerre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Mark'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Gary Funck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
"Spamassassin List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 7:41 PM
Subject: RE: [SAtalk] those pesky small v*agra ads


> Wow I take one day off and fall really behind! :)
>
> 1st, Mark, Can I post your rules to the emporeum?

Sure; take whatever you deem useful. :)

> 3rd, I think the idea of rendering the html and OCRing it is backwards.

I think Gary meant the OCR thing kinda tongue-in-cheek. :) But detecting
invisible text might become a problem, for instance, if spammers got wise,
ran SA too, and then started lacing their own spam with "invisible" text
from their own collected ham.

Overall, I am not too worried, though. Just as an in the example of the
original poster -- be it less blatant, perhaps -- spammers will inevitably
leave some markup footprint to mask their text. And it will be that
footprint that we can scan for. In fact, I predict, should spammers persist
in techniques to hide text, that soon enough we will reach a turning point
to our advantage, in that initially it may seem clever to hide text, but the
footprint they leave doing so will be the clear giveaway. Like using n0n0
words like "y0ung" and such: seems smart on the surface, but in reality is a
spammer footprint that sticks out like a sore thumb, and almost makes all
other tests redundant.

- Mark



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