At Fri Jul 25 09:16:45 2003, Tony Finch wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, Martin Radford wrote:
> >
> > If that's correct, I think people on the beta program really should
> > report it as a bug, irrespective of the fact that a Message-ID is not
> > technically mandatory.
> 
> Lots of headers that SHOULD be present in normal SMTP don't have to be
> present at message submission time. I think it's fine for the MUA to rely
> on the MTA to add the message-ID; in fact the MTA is probably better at
> choosing a good one than the MUA.

I understand that point.

But Outlook has been generating its own Message-ID for years, so to
remove it looks unusual.  So either someone at MS has made a
deliberate decision to remove it (in which case their answer will be
"it's a design decision"), and that's fine.  Or for some reason, it
has been unintentionally removed ("Oops, we'll put that back").  But
if I were on the beta program, I'd want to report it based on the
possibility that it is a bug.  To me, it's certainly "an unexpected
change in behaviour" that merits being queried.

Let's face it, the scores given to these FORGED_MUA_* rules indicates
that they do pretty well at spotting spam.  (The main problem is with
mailing lists that replace the Message-ID with one they've generated
themselves.) 

Martin
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