1) yes the sa-talk mailing list is more-or-less wide open. The fact that the satalk list gets a Nigerian scam email about once every two months is a prime example.

2) no it probably should should not be closed, this is the official forum for posting technical problems and many posters aren't subscribed to the list. If spammers spam the list, it's just more test data for the development of SA as far as I'm concerned. Others might chime in differing opinions however.

3) most non-tech-support oriented mailing lists are closed, most mailing lists that desire to have the least barrier to feedback from users are generally open.

As far as the tagging of this particular email as spam or not, this is a "semi legitimate" service. They don't email anyone unless someone who is registered with their service enters you on their website. To find out "who admires you" you register and then enter all the people you like and if you discover the match by brute force you're told. Of course this also sends a "someone admires you" notice to everyone you entered. Also once you're registered they can sell your email address, but not the addresses of those you punch in who haven't registered yet.

It's certainly a nuisance site, well suited to the drooling on themselves masses, but it would be hard to call this email itself 'spam'. I can go to bluemountain.com and send you a post card without your solicitation either.

http://www.someonelikesyou.com/faq.html explains this bizarre system.

I submitted block requests when I got one, never got one since and I don't have any spams I can correlate to the service. In their privacy policy they claim that they do sell the email addresses of registered users, but not of unregistered users who just happened to get a notice.

So to some degree they are a spam service, They sell name and address lists of registered users, although you have to consent to it and they try hard to not make it clear that is what they are doing.

The other thing I find particularly annoying about someonelikesyou is that they refuse to identify who entered your address until you register and start feeding in other people's emails. This effectively makes it an anonymous means by which someone can send you a single unsolicited message, until you tell them where they can stuff all their "someone likes you" emails.


At 06:38 PM 10/30/2002 -0600, Jess Anderson wrote:
Does this mean that the salist is wide open? Why shouldn't
there be a restriction that only subscribers can post? I
thought most mailing lists were set up with that restriction.

FWIW, I got that same spam in my personal mailbox yesterday,
scored 3.5 of 5.0, with a different Subject: line (headers
attached).

The list mail gets through without being challenged, as procmail
scoops it off before SA could see it. But even if SA saw it, it
would pass as a false negative.


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