At 9/27/02 6:51 AM, Michael Moncur wrote:

>> Being listed in SPEWS will trigger these rules:
>>
>>   RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM - generic rule
>>   X_OSIRU_SPAM_SRC      - SPEWS specific?
>
>According to osirusoft, this is not SPEWS specific:
>
>>127.0.0.4 Confirmed Spam Source
>>A site has been identified as a constant source of spam, and is manually
>added.
>> Submissions for this type of spam require multiple nominations from
>multiple sites.
>> Test Blockers also find themselves in this catagory.
>
>So, it should only happen if you're listed in SPEWS plus something else, in
>theory.

Actually, their FAQ is a little misleading on that point. 127.0.0.4 does 
include sites listed only in SPEWS: when they say "manually added", that 
includes "has been manually to the SPEWS list".

As someone whose netblock has been listed in SPEWS for the last two days 
due to the SPEWS policy of intentional collateral damage, I second the 
motion to change the tests so the scores can be different. (I'm not 
defending my ISP; I've made my displeasure clear to them and I'm 
considering other options, so there's no need to flame me about how I'm 
part of the problem by doing business with them.)

Whatever people think of SPEWS, they do intentionally set out to flag 
non-spam in many cases. I'd guess that the chance of a message flagged in 
spews.relays.osirusoft.com actually being spam is probably quite a bit 
lower than the chance of a message flagged by inputs.relays.osirusoft.com 
being spam (although I haven't done any tests; this just seems logical 
based on the listing policies).

Given that, spews.relays.osirusoft.com should be scored differently from 
inputs.relays.osirusoft.com. Having one rule combining them (which is 
what happens with a pure relays.osirusoft.com lookup) is less than 
optimal if they should be scored differently.

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Robert L Mathews, Tiger Technologies



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