Of 185 spams I have that were tagged correctly by SA, 10 have SMTPD32 
received headers, only one of which was an eval version. Looking at the 
headers, all of the SMTPD's were open-relays, and many operated on 
cable/dsl subnets. Perhaps it's popular for DSL/cable subscribers to pirate 
this app and run it misconfigured, but it doesn't seem to be all that common.

For comparison, a search of the headers for my current inbox of snort users 
matches 45 emails, from 8 different users, but that's a lot more email.

I'd say it's fair to say this rule isn't that good, but the cost of the app 
isn't really a consideration for wether or not spammers will use a tool, 
piracy is way too common.


At 03:55 PM 7/18/2002 -0400, Tom Grandgent wrote:
>That software costs $1000 minimum.  However, there is an evaluation
>version available.  I don't see why spammers would use the eval version
>of a full-fledged mail server instead of one of the great many free
>or cheap programs designed solely to do mass mailing, but I accept that
>it's within the realm of possibility.
>
>I would be interested in seeing the ratio of spams detected versus
>false-positives based on this test.  Is that what determines the
>"default score" for a test, by the way?  Or is it something else?
>
>
>Vince Puzzella ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> > It's probably because a lot of small-time, DYI spammers use that
> > software to perform bulk mailing.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tom Grandgent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 3:30 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [SAtalk] SMTPD_IN_RCVD test is unfair discrimination...?
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I run Ipswitch Mail Server, a popular mail server on Win32, and recently
> >
> > one of my users had a legitimate email he sent flagged as spam by
> > SpamAssassin running on the receiving server.  What caught my attention
> > was the line:
> >
> > SMTPD_IN_RCVD      (2.1 points)  Received via SMTPD32 server
> > (SMTPD32-n.n)
> >
> > (SMTPD32-n.n) is how IMail identifies itself.  So this test is saying
> > that
> > if the message is coming from an IMail server, it's probably spam.
> > Right?
> > To my knowledge, IMail is as secure against spammers as any other good
> > mail
> > server.  It's dirt simple to configure as a closed relay.  The
> > documentation strongly recommends doing this and explains the problems
> > with open relays in detail.
> >
> > I searched for more information on this test on the SpamAssassin web
> > site
> > and the list archives but couldn't find anything.  Can anyone explain
> > the
> > reasoning behind this test?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tom
> >
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