Those are some discouraging numbers, but it sounds like the 
algorithm is a good one.  Thanks for answering my questions - 
that's exactly what I wanted to know.

Tom
  
Craig R.Hughes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
>      TOTAL        SPAM        NONSPAM
>        3214        2280         934  SMTPD_IN_RCVD
> 
> So there's about twice as much spam as nonspam sent through that 
> mail server.  The way scores are set is related to the relative 
> frequency of spam vs nonspam triggering a particular rule, but 
> the optimization is done by a genetic algorithm which is able to 
> effectively look at the huge number of combinations of rules 
> triggering in deciding how to allocate a score.  For example, it 
> could be that some rule which looks really spammy by the 
> SPAM:NONSPAM ratio metric might actually get a low or negative 
> score, because in spam it always occurs in combination with a 
> bunch of other even better signs of spam, while in nonspam it 
> occurs alone.
> 
> C
> 
> On Thursday, July 18, 2002, at 12:55  PM, Tom Grandgent wrote:
> 
> > That software costs $1000 minimum.  However, there is an evaluation
> > version available.  I don't see why spammers would use the eval version
> > of a full-fledged mail server instead of one of the great many free
> > or cheap programs designed solely to do mass mailing, but I accept that
> > it's within the realm of possibility.
> >
> > I would be interested in seeing the ratio of spams detected versus
> > false-positives based on this test.  Is that what determines the
> > "default score" for a test, by the way?  Or is it something else?
> >
> >
> > Vince Puzzella ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >>
> >> It's probably because a lot of small-time, DYI spammers use that
> >> software to perform bulk mailing.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Tom Grandgent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 3:30 PM
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: [SAtalk] SMTPD_IN_RCVD test is unfair discrimination...?
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I run Ipswitch Mail Server, a popular mail server on Win32, 
> >> and recently
> >>
> >> one of my users had a legitimate email he sent flagged as spam by
> >> SpamAssassin running on the receiving server.  What caught my 
> >> attention
> >> was the line:
> >>
> >> SMTPD_IN_RCVD      (2.1 points)  Received via SMTPD32 server
> >> (SMTPD32-n.n)
> >>
> >> (SMTPD32-n.n) is how IMail identifies itself.  So this test is saying
> >> that
> >> if the message is coming from an IMail server, it's probably spam.
> >> Right?
> >> To my knowledge, IMail is as secure against spammers as any other good
> >> mail
> >> server.  It's dirt simple to configure as a closed relay.  The
> >> documentation strongly recommends doing this and explains the problems
> >> with open relays in detail.
> >>
> >> I searched for more information on this test on the SpamAssassin web
> >> site
> >> and the list archives but couldn't find anything.  Can anyone explain
> >> the
> >> reasoning behind this test?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
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