Daniel Quinlan wrote:

>Rob McMillin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>When sysadmins in those TLDs fix their relays, I'll be happy to hear
>>them out.
>>
>The other problem with using this type of test in a spam corpus is
>that you're using a small subset of global spam.  I don't do any
>business with people from some random country, so of course, all of my
>mail from them is spam.  However, if someone else does business with
>that country, 99.99% of their mail from there is not spam.  It's very
>specific to the user.
>
>Also, it's bad public relations for SA and spam-filtering in general.
>(Just a fact of life.)
>
Let me get this straight -- we have ignorant and the willfully abusive 
people in these countries creating or abetting spam for others to deal 
with, and *we're* supposed to be concerned about public relations?

This strikes me as very backwards.

If we're so worried about what other people think of us and what we do, 
we really ought to close up shop now, because there's armies of spammers 
out there who think their MAKE MONEY FAST messages should positively, 
absolutely get delivered and read and acted on. After all, we're extremists!

>It would be better to find a rule that just worked.
>
The one I submitted *does*.

>For example, one
>method would be a TLD "whitelist".  As spamassassin receives mail,
>there are two counters for each TLD.  One is total messages and the
>other is total number tagged as spam.  Then rank the spam ratio by
>TLD.  TLDs in the worst quartile get +1.0 score, TLDs in the next 25%
>get +0.5 score, TLDs in the next 25% get -0.5, TLDs in the best 25%
>get -1.0.
>
Yes, and while users wait for this rule to accumulate this knowledge, 
mine could be chucking spam into the approprate non-Inbox folder. 
Seriously -- are we now going to pitch the default rules against finding 
Big5 encoding in the Subject line because it might trample the feelings 
of some people? Maybe they'll figure out that their get-rich-quick 
schemes are unwelcome and stop sending them. It catches spam for me, 
that's all I can say. The point of SpamAssassin is, to some degree, to 
disseminate the collected experience of its contributors. And that 
includes unpleasant and possibly politically incorrect experience.

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