Well, but we still made a value decision in choosing to highlight a
positive fact from his bio that portrays him in a certain light, rather
than something about his downsides. I think the man deserves respect, and
of course there is a ton of things to learn from Apple's success, but in
several ways the values he stands for are indeed diametrically opposed to
Wikipedia's.

On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Jeff Elder <[email protected]> wrote:

> If we're posting links to our content, I think we're on solid ground.
> People can have all sorts of feelings about Apple and Jobs and still want
> to know the facts about him.
>
> Jeff Elder
> Digital communications manager
> Wikimedia Foundation
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>
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Ivan Martínez <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I have the same feeling than Victor. Jobs represented a company with some
>> opposed values to our movement perhaps a lot of wikimedians are AppleFans :P
>>
>> 2015-10-05 13:59 GMT-05:00 Victor Grigas <[email protected]>:
>>
>>> I'll just say this -
>>> Apple isn't exactly an open-source company. Is that an issue?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Jeff Elder <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > You're right! Will dehyphenate and post
>>> >
>>> > Jeff Elder
>>> > Digital communications manager
>>> > Wikimedia Foundation
>>> > 704-650-4130
>>> > @jeffelder
>>> > @wikipedia
>>> > The Wikimedia blog
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Joe Sutherland <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I like it. But isn't it "HP" (no dash)?
>>> >>
>>> >> J
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Monday, 5 October 2015, Jeff Elder <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Jump in there with this?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> When he was 13, Steve Jobs cold-called Bill Hewlett of H-P, who gave
>>> him
>>> >>> a summer job. http://buff.ly/1Q1Qmp2 #rememberingstevejobs
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Jeff Elder
>>> >>> Digital communications manager
>>> >>> Wikimedia Foundation
>>> >>> 704-650-4130
>>> >>> @jeffelder
>>> >>> @wikipedia
>>> >>> The Wikimedia blog
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Michael Guss <[email protected]>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Hi everyone,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Social trend right now is remembering Steve Jobs; Wikipedia does as
>>> >>>> well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Thoughts?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> --
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>>> >>
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