Pine, I think you're splitting hairs here... --Ed
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Joe Sutherland <[email protected]> wrote: > Getting a little off-topic here, but I still don't see being reckless as > necessarily a bad thing. You build and learn from these sort of > experiences. You're reckless once, you're reverted, you talk about it, you > learn. That's to be encouraged. > > Joe > > On 17 July 2015 at 15:05, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote: > >> BRD is different from recklessness. Quoting: "The BOLD, revert, discuss >> cycle (BRD) is an optional method of reaching consensus. It can sometimes >> be useful for identifying objections, keeping discussion moving forward and >> helping to break deadlocks. Care and diplomacy should be exercised. Some >> editors will see any reversion as a challenge, so be considerate and >> patient." >> >> Dictionary def of "reckless" from Wiktionary: "1. Careless or heedless; >> headstrong or rash. 2. >> Indifferent to danger or the consequence." >> >> Pine >> On Jul 17, 2015 12:52 PM, "Joe Sutherland" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Recklessness is very okay. See http://enwp.org/WP:BRD . >>> >>> Joe >>> >>> On 17 July 2015 at 14:50, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Encouraging boldness is ok, and new good-faith editors sometimes need >>>> that encouragement. Recklessness is not ok, and this particular quote >>>> sounds like it's encouaging the latter IMO. There must be a better quote >>>> that can be used instead. >>>> >>>> Pine >>>> On Jul 17, 2015 8:58 AM, "James Alexander" <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yeah, I think the context comes out ok on that. It's meant to sound >>>>> revolutionary :) even if given our history perhaps it shouldn't sound like >>>>> that ( because it's been a core thing since the start). >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> James Alexander >>>>> Legal and Community Advocacy >>>>> Wikimedia Foundation >>>>> +1 415-839-6885 x6716 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 10:16, Joe Sutherland <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> "Be bold" is a major, MAJOR thing on Wikipedia projects however. >>>>> >>>>> On 17 July 2015 at 10:12, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Without broader context for that quote, I would suggest not >>>>>> publicizing that widely. Wikipedia is not an anarchy. >>>>>> >>>>>> Pine >>>>>> On Jul 17, 2015 8:01 AM, "Juliet Barbara" <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I think this one deserves one from wikimedia >>>>>>> >>>>>>> @RosieStepGood: Best sentence so far: "Be bold; break your own >>>>>>> rules." @lilatretikov #Wikimania >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:54 AM, James Alexander < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Traditionally we've done it some. Personally I think it's a good >>>>>>> thing to do especially from @Wikimedia with more limited ones from >>>>>>> @Wikipedia. Is a cheap (less work then a blog etc) way to bring >>>>>>> attention >>>>>>> to the ongoing talks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> James Alexander >>>>>>> Legal and Community Advocacy >>>>>>> Wikimedia Foundation >>>>>>> +1 415-839-6885 x6716 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 09:47, Joe Sutherland <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Should we start RTing people who are tweeting about Wikimania talks >>>>>>> etc? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Joe >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> *Joe Sutherland* >>>>>>> Communications Intern [remote] >>>>>>> m: +44 (0) 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu <http://twitter.com/jrbsu> | w: >>>>>>> JSutherland <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:JSutherland_(WMF)> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Social-media mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Social-media mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Social-media mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Social-media mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> *Joe Sutherland* >>>>> Communications Intern [remote] >>>>> m: +44 (0) 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu <http://twitter.com/jrbsu> | w: >>>>> JSutherland <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:JSutherland_(WMF)> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Social-media mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Social-media mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Social-media mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Joe Sutherland* >>> Communications Intern [remote] >>> m: +44 (0) 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu <http://twitter.com/jrbsu> | w: >>> JSutherland <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:JSutherland_(WMF)> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Social-media mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Social-media mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >> >> > > > -- > *Joe Sutherland* > Communications Intern [remote] > m: +44 (0) 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu <http://twitter.com/jrbsu> | w: > JSutherland <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:JSutherland_(WMF)> > > _______________________________________________ > Social-media mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media > > -- Ed Erhart Editorial Intern Wikimedia Foundation
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