I don't think anyone has the foresight to know which services will become Web
services, in particular those Web services that will be commercially successful.
Personally, I do not think Web services are a gold mine any more than the Web
itself.  As such, I think the safest bet is that vendors who can currently
charge a fee for browser-based access (either charging consumers directly or
charging a middle man) will add Web service access.  Map providers are doing
this, as are some content providers.  I also imagine ASPs that host custom
applications, such as salesforce.com, will add Web services.  In its role as
content aggregators, Yahoo, AOL and MSN will evolve to be the primary Web
services clients (at least in the US).  I do not see UDDI playing a particularly
important role in any of these areas.  In fact, I think the UDDI to DNS analogy
is weak compared to a WS-Inspection to DNS analogy.

Scott Nichol

----- Original Message -----
From: "soap vamsi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Nilesh Kumar,Koratpallikar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 3:11 AM
Subject: Re: RE: Re: why uddi?


>
> thanx nilesh,
> On Tue, 28 May 2002 Nilesh Kumar, Koratpallikar wrote :
> >I agree that UDDI is just a part of the entire webservice
> >framework, but
> >definitely an imporant one.
> >
> >In your mail, you are trying to distinguish between "SOAPizing"
> >and
> >"Webservizing".  I think they are essentially the same. when you
> >look at the
> >definition SOAP itself(HTTP +XML), web is an inherent feature of
> >SOAP.  In
> >that sense its natural to "publish" and "locate" SOAP service on
> >the web.
> >
> >One alalogy of UDDI that comes to my mind is that of DNS(Domain
> >Naming
> >service), it enables you to resolve a url name to a IP address.
> >Similary a
> >UDDI service maps a webservice to its deployed location on the
> >web.
> >
> >Also, another advantage of UDDI is automation, when you want to
> >have
> >seamless connectivity from end to end. i.e use UDDI to locate a
> >webservice,
> >then use WSDL to look at the published services and then invoke
> >the desired
> >methods on the service.
> Yes if that level of automation(end to end) comes about it will
> surely be a value addition to the webservices technologies.But
> again, who will be the clients for these services(given that they
> should use that automation tool/utility to exploit its benifits)?
> and what will be such services?I reiterate again i am not
> questioning the intent or significance of UDDI, i am only trying
> to figure out,at a ground level ,what will be services that become
> webservices.
> My relentless pursuing of "what services will be the webservices?"
> may be annoying,but i guess thats the only way i can keep the
> discussion focussed.
> thanks again
> vamsi
> >
> >hope this helps
> >
> >nilesh
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> > From: soap vamsi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:06 AM
> >To: Harry Mynmann
> >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Re: why uddi?
> >
> >
> >
> >yes Harry i agree that UDDI is just a part of the webservices
> >framework.But insignificant??? ,in my opinion web services is
> >leveraging mainly on this capabilty to allow dynamic discovery
> >of
> >service info.
> >I do not contest the need for SOAPizing(if i may call it so)
> >applications,my query therefore was the need webservisize my
> >application.
> >What advantage will i get by doing this?Is it anything other
> >than
> >my being able to publish it in a pulic registry?
> >pl clarify
> >vamsi
> >On Tue, 28 May 2002 Harry Mynmann wrote :
> > >Hi :
> > >
> > >.
> > >
> > >UDDI is more of a registry of services. It is NOT Web
> >Services,
> > >just a small
> > >part - in my opinion, insignificant. Web Services is made of
> > >many
> > >components - the most important being using SOAP as a
> >protocol,
> > >XML over
> > >HTTP.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "soap vamsi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 10:35 PM
> > >Subject: why uddi?
> > >
> > >
> > > > I am not sure if this is the right place for this query ,I
> > >will
> > > > be grateful though for any information in this direction.
> > > > My query is regarding the services that are likely to
> >become
> > > > webservices and the need for uddi.
> > > > In my opnion there are two senarios where webservies might
> > >find
> > > > place
> > > > 1.b2b.
> > > > 2.b2c.
> > > > Firstly in a b2b senario one business knows the other.Where
> >is
> > >the
> > > > need to dynamically discover the service using uddi?
> > > > In a b2c senario when if the client doesnot know the
> > >business
> > > > service provider the need for uddi is warrnated,but here
> >the
> > > > client(i am referening to an end user) needs to soap aware
> > >and
> > > > soap capable to avail those services.To what extent is
> >this
> > >a
> > > > realistic expectation?
> > > > If i am wrong in my extrapolation regd the likely
> > >webservices,
> > > > what services to become webservices?
> > > >
> > > > I may have been myopic in my opinion formation,pl feel
> >free
> > >to
> > > > make me aware of the possiblities  that i have overlooked.
> > > > Thaking you
> > > > vamsi
> > > >
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