I wonder if like mosqitoe's, these bug's bite because they pick up on something 
in your system or that is lacking?...debbie

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From: Ode Coyote <[email protected]> 

> Widders....Not especially deadly and they don't tend to bite. 
> Hauling armloads of firewood in Alabama, I decided to actually "look" at 
> what I'd been carrying around for months. 
> 
> Results: average, 2 to 4 Black Widows, several small scorpions and an 
> occasional big nasty looking centipede per armload. 
> 
> Walking about barefoot in those woods, I stood quietly for a while one day, 
> then "looked" at what I was walking in. Several small scorpions per 
> square foot. 
> 
> I've found black widows living under the bed in the box springs and 
> always seemed to have one in the cab of my toy trucks as a kid. 
> 
> Never stung or bitten that I can SAY was any of those. I've had a few 
> bites in the morning that itched pretty bad and took a while to heal up, 
> but never saw what did the deed. 
> 
> Yellow jackets now.... never see em coming and they make your whole body 
> hurt for hours. They'll hit ya 3 times before you can decide which way to 
> run. 
> 
> Ode 
> 
> At 09:05 PM 5/19/2006 +0000, you wrote: 
> 
> >Are you sure this was a Black Widow? 
> >I was under the understanding that one bite is lethal to a human. It is a 
> >neurotoxin paralysis to the nervous system and kills within 15-20 minutes. 
> > 
> >Am I mistaken? 
> > 
> >Ernie 
> > 
> > 
> >>From: Tad Winiecki 
> >>Reply-To: [email protected] 
> >>To: [email protected] 
> >>Subject: Re: CS>Brown recluse bite 
> >>Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 11:28:24 -0700 
> >> 
> >>Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 17:49:38 -0400 
> >>From: "Barbara" 
> >> 
> >>I had 2 Black Widow spider bites. I put meat tenderizer (papain, bromelain 
> >>in meat tenderizer break down protein and bee venom and I presume spider 
> >>venom is made of protein also) one the first one. In absence of meat 
> >>tenderizer I have used digestive enzymes or fresh pineapple, papaya, or 
> >>kiwi fruit. 
> >> 
> >>The bite I put meat tenderizer on immediately did not react at all to the 
> >>venom- no necrotizing tissue or inflammation at all. I did get a general 
> >>reaction of nausea and stomach cramps. The second bite I didn't recognize 
> >>as a bite at the time. The next day it started to necrotize and my leg 
> >>swelled up and turned red. In an inflammatory situation Vitamin C in large 
> >>quantities should help. I was given an antibiotic and after a couple of 
> >>days the swelling went away, after a lot of prayer and healing scripture 
> >>confessions. Perhaps soaking in epsom salts would also be beneficial 
> >>because that helped my daughter after she had swelling and inflammation 
> >>from a pencil lead being rammed into her foot. 
> >> 
> >>I'm only assuming Black Widow spider venom and Brown Recluse venom are 
> >>similar. 
> >> 
> >>Nancy 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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