This is another first-rate reply; I wish we had more like this on our list. Thanks for all of this.

I am not a medical researcher, but I will take the liberty of passing on a personal speculation that I think in time may be proved by someone, somewhere: electrical therapy, long known to be useful in treating depression, works because it kills or debilitates pathogens that cause the affective disorder. Some clinicians now, I read, have replaced the old, horrifyingly massive electro-convulsive methods with much milder and longer series of electro-shock.

When I read this, Bob Beck's therapeutic regimen came to mind immediately, along with my little speculation, which of course is far below the standard of being called a hypothesis.

Some members might want to keep the idea in mind and see whether it eventually come to correspond with any clinical experiments. If it does, it might turn out that techniques some of our list members use may have mental health benefits.

JBB





On Monday, Dec 12, 2005, at 12:36 Asia/Tokyo, 4optimallife wrote:

Dr. Abram Hoffer, MD, PhD has been curing schizophrenia for over 50 years with diet and mega doses of Vitamin CJ, & niacin. The treatment has been more refined over the years and many other physicians are now treating schizophrenia using the same methods. Food allergies and part of the protocol and are quite often passed down genetically.

If I remember correctly and well, Dr. Torrey showed me some of his closed mind to Hoffer's ideas and experience in a personal note to me some years ago. I found that quite interesting given he was into research.

He may be somewhat correct about infections and it is interesting how Dr. Hoffer can cure schizophrenia with good nutrition, some diet restriction and his mega vitamins. Dr. Hoffer was considered a partner and friend by Dr. Linus Pauling so methinks Dr. Hoffer is not too far off. I personally know three people helped using Dr. Hoffer's protocol and have a film with Dr. Hoffer and cured patients. This all despite Dr. Torrey's closed mind to these ideas.

You can learn more at
http://www.4optimallife.com/Alternative-Medicines-Cures-For- Schizophrenia-Mental-Illness.html

Ronald Dishinger, a former teacher at Juilliard School of Music cured his son with Dr. Hoffer's methods and has written a great book. The link is on the above webpage and is a free download from Ronald's > site.


Kallie Miller

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan B. Britten" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Re: The healing properties of cats


Dear Catherine,

You are evidently much better informed about this topic than I am. Good for you, and thanks for your elaboration.

All the same, I urge list members to read the entire "Science" section of the December 2005 issue of Esquire: there is much of value there, not only the article about Dr. E. Fuller Torrey's theories about schizophrenia. The theme is "America's Best and Brightest." It's well worth the news stand price of $3.50.

BTW, Torrey gets no dough from Uncle Sam: a wealthy donor enabled him to devote his life to his studies.

I personally believe Torrey, and others who claim an infectious cause for most undiagnosed and untreatable afflictions, will be vindicated within 20 years.

In the meanwhile, ordinary persons are left to their own devices. Hence, useful information aimed at a lay audience is priceless. Few of us have the time or resources to delve into the medical >> literature.

Cordially,


JBB


On Sunday, Dec 11, 2005, at 07:57 Asia/Tokyo, Catherine Creel wrote:

Dear Jonathan,


  You said:


<< One leading medical researcher has devoted his career to the
theory
that toxoplasm gondii, from cats, particularly their excrement, is a
leading, though not sole, cause of schizophrenia.    The recent issue
of Esquire features an article about this MD.   Those who are
interested will find it readily enough.   Bottom line:  cats (and
dogs)
kept in the house pose risks to their owners.>>




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