I would expect each to have very different properties.
At least 2 are found in EIS, maybe at different times and in different places at different times. [Ag2O and AgO]
To call silver hydroxide [AgOH] a silver oxide and lump that into the same catagory without saying it was done is confusing. Maybe that's technically correct, but to me...It's not an 'oxide', it's a 'hydroxide'.
Could we say that 'oxides' are various silver and oxygen configurations without the hydrogen componant?
Quoting from Van Nostrands:
Silver 1 oxide = AgO
Silver 2 oxide = Ag20 [Also considered as silver peroxide] [Formed when ozone reacts with silver...possibly when hydrogen peroxide reacts with silver ions? ..similar 'danglie' unstable oxygen atom. If oxygen coming off that electrode is mono atomic, what then?]
Silver 3 oxide = Ag2O3 [found in impure form made by anodic oxidation of silver]...what's the impurity? Ag2O?, plain Ag? ..doesn't say.]
I also found a 4th silver oxide on-line a while back.
Silver chloride dissolves in HCL with the formation of such chloroargenate ions a AgCl2]- and [AgCl3]2-... and possibly [AgCl4]3-
Silver forms several compounds or complexes with proteins by the action of silver oxide with geletin in alkali solution, or with albunim [albumin], or by suspension in casein solution and by other methods. [MSP, soluable in H20]
A google of albumin and albunim gets interestingly way over my medical head. [Not hard to do]
Coating efficiency of -acid glycoprotein in competitive enzyme ...
... as a result of blocking, and casein solution is more. effective than bovine serum albumin ... blocking ( ); 2% casein solution (
... with lowered levels of allergy causing protein or increased casein levels...
... indicate the product contains sodium caseinate (a milk derivative)
Ammonium Caseinate Sodium Caseinate Casein Solution
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Speculation:
Silver oxide is used in good batteries. What about the action of silver or silver oxide and iron or other metals in the blood... all floating about in a saline electrolyte swapping ions around? There are natural elecrical currents in there somewhere too. [Could a nerve impulse do a charge or discharge cycle? ..escpecially if the insulation was compromised?]
Rechargeable (Secondary) Batteries on GlobalSpec
... Iron-silver batteries have been used in special electronics applications. The iron-silver oxide batteries have a high energy density and a high cycle ...
cmpmedia.globalspec.com/help/spechelp.html?name=Rechargeable_ Batteries&comp=3209§ionid=2 - 18k -
Silver oxide batteries (AgO) are noted for their high energy density and power density. The silver electrode is high cost, and this has limited the use of the silver oxide batteries to applications such as lightweight medical and electronic equipment, submarines, torpedoes, and space applications. The silver-zinc cell has the highest energy per unit weight and volume. Other silver oxide batteries are silver-cadmium and silver-iron.
I have also read about silver precipitating out of silver *something* in the presence of iron , but don't recall the specifics.
Ivan and Frank go at it: [Duck!]
http://www.gaiaresearch.co.za/silver.html#DOES%20HYDROCHLORIC%20ACID%20IN%20THE%20STOMACH%20RENDER%20IONIC-COLLOIDAL%20%A0SILVER%20INEFFECTIVE,%20AS%20CLAIMED?
Ode
At 03:38 PM 4/1/2005 -0500, you wrote:
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>http://www.natural-immunogenics.com/pdf/6.pdf
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>For solubility products we have this in the table:
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>Ag2O (Silver oxide) 1.52 x 10-5 (AgOH)
>
>What does that mean? We already know (or believe) that silver hydroxide
>becomes silver oxide when it drys out. Does this mean that it goes back to
>being silver hydroxide when it dissolves back into water again? And is
>that the solubility product for silver oxide or silver hydroxide, or both,
>or does silver oxide not exist when dissolved in water?
>
>Also that table indicates that silver oxide (hydroxide) is about 100 times
>a soluble as silver chloride, so the limit for that should be about 98 ppm,
>but other references list the solubility of silver oxide at about 13 ppm.
>It sure confuses things that many of these number do not appear to be
>consistant between different references.
>
>Interesting questions though.
>
>Marshall
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>[email protected] wrote:
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>> Silver Listers,
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>> The key word is "Oligodynamic & Ag+".
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>> And I'm not referring to Frank Key!!
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>> Search using Google "Oligodynamic" --
>> "oligodynamic", "Ag+". Also try NO caps -- all lower case!!
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>> The BIG QUESTION IS the following: How does one make
>> consistant "Oligodynamic" EIS. i.e. with silver
>> chunks at or smaller than 10.0 nano meters
>>
>> Many or most of us don't know what the size of our silver ions
>> or chunks are -- it's expensive to use a lab.
>>
>> What does a lab analysis cost? Does anyone have any recent experience?
>>
>> Frank Key's website claims that IONIC SILVER is of
>> little value, being a "DISSOLVED" form not having
>> "adequate surface area for contact with bacteria".
>> Has the list discussed Frank's take on this?
>>
>> Would not a DISSOLVED form get into tissues and into
>> "Virus Bodies", thus acting in a "below 10NM" manner?
>> The Prof. RJ Gibbons leaflet, seems to make the point
>> of "surface area" being important.
>>
>> The archives do mention "Oligodynamic" CS -- consider this an update --
>> These articles are recent and to say the least interesting!!
>>
>> in SILvation, Douglas H
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