url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m62939.html Re: CS>Yellow tinted CS!! From: Jonathan B. Britten Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:25:06
> See also: > http://educate-yourself.org/cs/csmooneffects17aug0.shtml Jonathan, Thank you for the interesting link!. Unfortunately, you can design an experiment to give just about any result you wish. The design of experiments (DOE) is a difficult task, and those who can do it well are highly paid. The main difficulty with the eclipse experiment is the CS-300 is a constant voltage device. It is sensitive to the initial conductance of the dw, minor irregularities in the shape of the end of the rods, the supply voltage from the batteries, and so on. The biggest problem is it runs at high current density. This produces misting at the end of the brew, which means ions are converted into oxide. This will change the ionic portion of the ppm measurement. The high current produces hydrogen bubbles at the cathode. These change the wetted area of the rod, which changes the conductance. In fact, the elixa web page describes both of these processes: "During the colloid making process, bubbles come off one electrode while the other darkens and emits a fine mist of microscopic silver particles." http://www.elixa.com/silver/ This makes the production of cs very erratic. For an example of what it does to the current vs time curves, please see the curves for 27V in Fig. 1 on my web page at http://www3.sympatico.ca/add.automation/misc/130vdc.htm One solution is to run at lower current density and avoid misting. My investigations in this direction have produced very good results, and are fully documented in the archives. A second solution is to use a constant current to supply current to the cell. This makes the current independent of variables such as initial conductance, bubbles at the cathode, variations in the shape of the rods, etc. The problem with constant current ic's is they are limited to a maximum input voltage of about 37V. This means most conventional cs generators that use current limiting will be saturated at the beginning of the brew, and still act as constant voltage systems with all the problems described above. I have developed a solution that operates at much higher voltage and avoids the saturation problem. A description and test data is available at http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m61896.html These two solutions help remove some of the variables that cause non-repeatability in the cs process. There is still the problem of contamination, variations in the quality of the dw, and so on. In the eclipse experiment, they measured a change of 1900 ppb: "The results shown in Figure 1 indicate that the amount of silver began to decrease nearing the eclipse, with a reduction to 1900 ppb during the eclipse." But they state the normal variation of the process is greater than that: "Normal batches of colloidal silver produced in this way yield a count of about 6000 to 8000 ppb (parts per billion) of silver." You really can't make any conclusions on a single sample when the process variability is greater than the change you measured during the experiment! There are many other issues involved, but my conclusion is this experiment is not very well designed, and it really doesn't say much about the effect they are trying to prove. It is true the moon has an effect on biological systems. The increased illumination allows hunters to hunt better, crabs to find their mates, and so on. But consider the implications if their hypothesis were true. If the moon affected the electrolysis process, we would find significant effects throughout industry. Aluminum refining operations might have to shut down during part of the month. Battery powered watches might run slower. Your car might be harder to start. All these effects depend on electrolysis. If the moon had any influence on the electrolysis process, our whole lives would be different. Since none of these effects occur, I think it's safe to say the moon really has no effect on electrolysis, and any changes in the production of cs are due to variables that can be controlled. If you know how:) Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: [email protected] Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]>
