The silver that is pushed off  the electrodes just falls to the bottom of the 
vessel and stays there.  It doesn't stay in suspension.  Water velocity has to 
be high enough to keep the conductivity uniform throughout the water or the 
generator will shut down prematurely.  That's why I like to see the surface 
roiling.  Then I know for sure the water is moving fast enough.

Trem 

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ode Coyote 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:38 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Submerged Pump


  So, it does form but doesn't stay on the electrodes.
  I've never let 'grey fuzzy' fallout bother me as it does stay behind or can 
be filtered. If left alone it tends to dissolve into a white mist identical to 
the so called "ion cloud" for the most part, adding to the suspension....but I 
try not to make it in the first place.
  It's, at best ,wasteful, though probably not the least bit harmful and at 
worst, unattractive.
  ..not that I would stir it in on purpose.

  What happens if you reduce water circulation to 'just moving' sufficiently to 
disrupt and distribute?

  Ode

  At 09:08 AM 8/25/2003 -0700, you wrote: 
  >>>>

    I haven't ever seen any buildup on the electrodes at ANY water velocity. 
It's because the generator reverses the polarity to the electrodes continually 
which pushes the accumulated silver off the cathode each cycle. Basically self 
cleaning. I can set the pump volume with a control on the front of the pump. As 
long as there's enough water flow through the electrode assembly it seems to 
make no difference how fast the water moves. I like to see the surface roiling 
as that indicates to me there's enough velocity for sure. 

    The silver falls to the bottom of the vessel and when the CS is drained 
through the spigot, the silver stays in the bottom and the clear CS pours out.

    Trem 

    ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: <mailto:[email protected]>Ode Coyote 
      To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] 
      Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 5:23 AM
      Subject: Re: CS>Submerged Pump

      I've found the the water circulation speed doesn't have an effect on the 
CS quality but it does have an effect on deposit buildups on the electrodes 
[the grey fuzzies] which in turn have an effect on auto off calibration because 
the deposits are semi insulative.
      They tend to grow into the direction of the water flow and fall off if 
they get too thick making a layer of crud in the bottom.
      There is a sweet spot under which these effects are not a problem.
      I'm assuming that the SG7 has found and is using that perfect water 
velocity range commensurate with the electrode spacing and current to prevent 
crud buildup and drop off.
      Ode

      At 08:56 AM 8/24/2003 -0700, you wrote: 
      >>>>

        Can I jump in here? We use 7/16 to 1/2 inch spacing on our SG7 Pro. 
With the electrodes that close together the current gradient between plates is 
pretty strong right at startup and we reach current limiting very quickly. 
However the water has to be moving fairly rapidly or the unit will shut down 
because it senses voltage drop across the electrodes to control the shutoff 
point. We use a submergible fountain pump to keep the water moving vigorously. 
The idea that it takes very slow water movement to produce good CS doesn't have 
any effect on our generator. It produces particle size in the general range of 
.001 to .005 microns. 

        So, I think closer is better if you can keep the water moving. Why have 
to wait to get up to speed?

        My 2 cents.

        Regards,

        Trem Williams
        <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]

          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] 
          To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] 
          Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 9:32 PM
          Subject: Re: CS>Submerged Pump

          Hi Ole Bob,

          Wouldn't spacing the electrodes farther apart be a "good thing" if 
you were producing a couple of gallons at a time and your power supply was set 
up to compensate for it? It seems to me that it might speed things up a little. 
Does a slow start (low voltage) or a fast start (higher voltage) make a 
difference if the final current is limited? 

          Andy

          From: Robert Berger

          Hi Andy,

          The current drops down and it takes longer to get to the current
          limiting level.

          "Ole Bob"

          [email protected] wrote:

          > Hi Ole Bob,
          >
          > What happens when you increase the anode to cathode spacing?
          >
          > Andy




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