Thanks a lot, you guys.  Good information!

I have access to some surplus water pumps from work which have a range
around 1 gallon an minute, give or take, depending on the voltage applied.
I may use these or a bought submersable pump if I get up to a gallon maker
(or larger) setup.

Incidently, I just made a setup consisting of a 12 ounce container, two 8
inch "U" shaped electrodes made of 12 gage fine silver wire 99.9% purity
with a spacing of 1.25 inches, a 35 VDC approx. power supply, a 1 ma
regulated output made with a LN334 regualtor with a 68 ohm resistor, and
thermal stirring with a 7 Watt night light in a tin can, insulated.  The
setup reaches current limit
right around the 15 minute mark.  The Mercury program calculates the ppm for
a 2 hour run at 21.8 ppm.  There is the expected grey and black coloration
on the respective electrodes, but no whiskers nor any substantial buildup on
the electrodes.  The final product is clear, minimal tindal as far as I can
tell, but I don't have a laser pointer or a PWT tester yet to verify the
concentration.  No "ion clouds" or whisps were visible for any of the runs.

Starting voltage was about 33V at .46ma so resistance calculates to approx.
78Kohms..  Voltages and resistance were taken at 15 minute intervals vary a
bit, but at the end are approx 4 or 5 VDC at 1ma and therefore 4K to
5Kohms.

Dan


CS>Submerged Pump

From: Trem (view other messages by this author)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 13:58:45

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Can I jump in here?  We use 7/16 to 1/2 inch spacing on our SG7
Pro.  With the electrodes that close together the current gradient between
plates is pretty strong right at startup and we reach current limiting very
quickly.  However the water has to be moving fairly rapidly or the unit
will shut down because it senses voltage drop across the electrodes to
control
the shutoff point.  We use a submergible fountain pump to keep the water
moving vigorously.  The idea that it takes very slow water movement to
produce good CS doesn't have any effect on our generator.  It produces
particle size in the general range of .001 to .005 microns.

So, I think closer is better if you can keep the water moving.  Why
have to wait to get up to speed?

My 2 cents.

Regards,

Trem Williams
[email protected]

Re: CS>Submerged Pump

From: Robert Berger (view other messages by this author)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 14:13:11

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Hi Dan,

I do not recommend air bubblers as I do not know how much  CO2 is being
added to the
CS. Also I think that the agitation is to weak for anything larger then
about a quart
tank.

I bought the pump at an aquarium store. It is rate 35 to 70 gal/hr with a
head of
18".
Since I am not elevating the DW it should be running near maximum output.

The 2 gallon aquarium is 12" long, the anode is at one end and the pump at
the other
end directed towards the cathode- anode. Its like this
PUMP---CATHODE--ANODE. Anode
to cahtode spacing is 1.8"

Dan Nave wrote:

> Ole Bob wrote that he used a submerged water pump in his 2 gallon CS
maker.
>
> Bob, what kind of flow rate does your pump have and where do you direct
the flow?
>
> For air bubblers, what kind of flow rate do you (anyone) recommend?
>
> Dan







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