To this day fertilizer is made from uranium tailings used to grow tobacco.
 Not true

Read the "real" story on radioactive fertilizers.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1755&dat=19801116&id=66EnAAAAIBAJ&sjid=u74EAAAAIBAJ&pg=6202,270475

..it's not "ADDED" to fertilizer and doesn't come from Uranium mine tailings..The Uranium is a present element in Phosphate mines [PhosphoGypsum] that isn't *extracted* when making the fertilizer [or wall board ] when the Phosphates are partially extracted from the Gypsum. What is SAYS is that there MAY be enough Uranium in the Gypsum tailings for the Phosphate mine to be worth the mine also *becoming* a Uranium mine....not that it IS one. South Eastern soils are already high in Radon producing elements and tobacco plants concentrate them regardless of source. [Adding another source, probably not a wonderful plan, but that doesn't mean it was intentional...maybe...somewhat negligent. ]

..and DU dust is more chemically toxic than it is radioactive, not that much different from lead dust...not to mention toxic explosives residues. Iraqi kids shouldn't be playing in blown up tanks. Their main problem is ignorant parents.

..a bit of comparative context..
What are the potential health concerns from use of DU?

To be honest, there are very few health concerns for DU from a radiological point of view, because it is only very slightly radioactive. Even the handling of enriched uranium in industry does not need special protection such as shielding. There are more dangerous radiotoxic elements associated with uranium in nature such as its natural decay products radon/radon progeny and radium. Contrary to uranium proper, radon progeny as indoor pollutants contribute sizably to our radiation exposure. DU is devoid of this radiotoxicity

The effects of DU depend on the route and magnitude of exposure (ingestion, inhalation, contact, or wounds) and the characteristics of DU (particle size and solubility). The potential health risk from **chemical toxicity** would arise from ingestion or inhalation of soluble depleted uranium (DU) which - at higher exposure levels - could lead to kidney damage. The potential **radiological risk** would arise from inhalation of insoluble DU oxides that could reside for an extended period in the lung and lung lymph nodes, or from ingestion of soluble DU that could lead to exposure of bone and other tissues. In my view, it is difficult to imagine that peacekeepers in the Balkans had exposure to DU high enough to significantly change their **normal** level of radiation exposure from natural and civilian sources. In this **context**, it has to be remembered that each cubic metre of top soil in Europe already contains about 10 g of natural uranium with all its radiotoxic decay products.[Radon..much more radioactive than DU ] Although this leads to measurable levels of uranium in drinking water and in the human body, little radiation exposure results from this radioactivity, as compared to **radon** progeny and external radiation from natural terrestrial and cosmic sources. For instance, some areas in Finland show largely elevated uranium levels in drinking water from wells, which lead to body contents much higher than what can be expected in Kosovo. No increase in cancer has been detected in such chronic exposure situations. [in Finland]

IOW Living in an old house with lead based paint in NC with all that Radon gas is more dangerous to kids than playing in tanks with DU dust in them [not counting the explosives residue] ..but only an ignorant parent would have their kids living in that old house and not remove the paint and vent the gas...or let their kids play in blown up tanks without taking the same precautions.

Ode


Ode

Every time you smoke a pack of cigarettes you get the equivalent amount of radiation of one chest x-ray. This is insane... yet it is done on a massive scale. My point is this... radioactivity belongs IN THE GROUND where it has it's natural uses. It does NOT belong above the ground in anything... including nuclear reactors (remember Chernobyl?), DM munitions (depleted uranium causing cancer and genetic defects in those populations exposed such as found in Iraq). Where radiation is found naturally above the ground it is ALWAYS considered dangerous.

Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:[email protected]>Richard Goodwin
To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 7:05 AM
Subject: Re: CS>A closer look at americium 241 from a smoke detector

I thought I was being clearer than that. Not sure that radiation or anything else has a "rightful" place where it "should" be, but the stuff in the ground is certainly far from harmless -- how many people have died of cancer who lived in houses full of radon all their short lives?

And yes, if you dig it up and concentrate it into something that is now highly radioactive, and put it in your pocket, of course you will suffer consequences. But why would you do that? Having dug it up and made it into something dangerous, you ought to put it somewhere where you cannot be affected by it, like in a reactor to produce electricity, behind shielding sufficient to prevent any exposure at all. That way it is safer for you than when it was in the ground.

Dick


From: Bob Banever <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, April 23, 2010 9:46:37 AM
Subject: Re: CS>A closer look at americium 241 from a smoke detector

Richard,

You entire premise is flawed. Radioactivity is a natural byproduct of decaying organic material and has it's rightful place in the ground. By being there it is safely away from harming humans and other living things that have no need for this type of radioactivity. By your premise digging it up, concentrating it and putting in our personal environments is ok. Nothing could be farthur from the truth. This type of energy is destructive to DNA... it kills living things in such high concentrations. Why would you want to expose yourself or your loved ones to ionizing radiation? It causes cancer, genetic defects, and a host of other diseases in plants, animals, and man.



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