You are right that PDF helps me to use a single format/tool for both books
and academic articles/theses/etc. For academic papers, I highlight/annotate
in the PDF. We did not get into other forms of "notes" that are useful to
me: programming/technical notes, those are captured in my blog.

So, my "notes" are right now spread out in these places:
- Public: Programming/CS/technical notes/book summaries in my tech blog:
https://codeyarns.github.io/tech/
- Public: Summaries of non-tech fiction/non-fiction books/movies/TV series
I like and other notes (Ex: how to take train in CA) in my personal blog:
https://codeyarns.github.io/personal/
- Private: Gitlab repo of Markdown files with notes/excerpts of online
articles or all other private text notes.
- Private: Directory of annotated PDF files (papers, theses, books)
- Private: Google drive of scans of handwritten notes and sketches (example
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zd4NpDFJ3_dRcBs3QQu1UdUtLNRRaXEK/view?usp=sharing>)
used to understand concepts. This is also where my academic/personal
notebooks end up (I scan them in once a notebook is filled up.) Handwritten
because text does not always cut it (esp with math and figures) and
notes/math/figures in LaTeX are a huge timesink (believe me, I did that for
a few years!). I have kept a scanner beside my home computer for a decade
now.

You can see there are 4 places (2 blogs combined) for my notes and search
(Google for blogs/drive, Gitlab/Linux text search). I would like this to
reduce to 3 or ideally 2 (text and non-text), but I don't see that ever
happening.

Since I need my notes to last several decades (it's almost 2 decades since
my undergrad already) I will only use text OR well-supported open-source
tools/formats OR tools from Microsoft (known for their decades-long
support) OR  non-text format I know will last forever (PDF). I stay away
from tools from startups or online tools which my lock my notes away or
make it difficult to export.

The other factor is accessibility: can I access them from the places I
want? Blogs, git repos and Google Drive are easily accessible at home and
work or from vacation (say India). The problem is PDF files directory --
which I am syncing using Dropbox, not ideal but I don't see a better
solution.

All this and we did not even get to notes that are private to my work
organization. That is another mess :-)

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 9:58 PM Srijith Nair <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Ashwin,
>
> > I have terrible memory, so how best to take notes and be able to search
> and
> > find them later is probably something I worry about every single day.
> >
> > Your current query is about: books and long-form online articles. I am
> > guessing you mean non-fiction works.
>
> Most of the time it is non-fiction indeed. But I am also trying to capture
> some rather eloquent passages in fiction.
>
> >    - *Non-fiction books*
> >       - *Physical*: I use highlighter/pen/pencil to underline and take
> >       notes on the pages. Decades ago, I used to consider writing in a
> book a
> >       sacrilege. Now I am the polar opposite :-)
> >       - *Ebook*: I avoid epub/ebook formats and get the PDF version. If
> >       there is no PDF, I export ebook to PDF. The PDF format supports
> >       annotations. You can annotate (highlight, underline, text, draw,
> > jot) on a
> >       PDF using PDF programs on desktop (Windows/Linux) and tablets
> (Android).
> >       And these annotated PDFs are viewable in standard PDF viewers on
> _all_
> >       platforms. I love this versatility of the PDF format.
>
> This is rather interesting workflow. I have not seen a lot of people
> convert from epub and other formats to PDF for reading. Is this in
> influenced by your academic reading workflow by any chance, as a way to
> unify both the process for all forms of reading?
>
> >       - For both types of books, if I like the book, I usually write an
> *online
> >       post/review* <https://codeyarns.github.io/personal/> with a
> summary.
> >       So this is the place I first head to.
>
> Wow, that is one disciplined record keeping! I am in awe.
>
> >    - *Long-form online articles*
> >       - After reading the article, if I like it, I keep a Markdown file
> >       where I take notes (link to article and bullet list of my
> summary). This
> >       used to be a ASCIIDoc file, but now that Markdown is supported
> > everywhere,
> >       I use that. Recently I switched to a Git repo hosted on Github for
> these
> >       Markdown files. Github has online Markdown viewer and editor, so I
> can
> >       search, read and edit all in the browser itself!
>
> Thanks for sharing the process. Markdown is indeed rather useful in such
> context and makes search very easy.
>
> Regards,
> Srijith
>
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 8:36 AM Srijith Nair <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I would like to pick your brains on how you organise and retrieve
> > > information that you read in books (physical or ebook) and long-form
> > > articles online.
> > >
> > > Over the years I have been getting increasingly frustrated at not being
> > > efficient in deriving meaningful value from what I have read and
> curated
> > > via notes and highlights from these readings. I wanted to get better at
> > > retaining what I read and also in being able to connect the dots and
> > > identifying overlapping and intersecting themes and topics across the
> > > various books and articles I have read. I also have the recurring
> problem
> > > of not being able to  remember/find that quote or that impressive
> eloquent
> > > passage in a book or article that I read a few weeks or months ago.
> > >
> > > Attempts at using Evernote, Notion and other collect-everything tools
> have
> > > solved parts of the problem but it does get tedious and, because it is
> not
> > > a tool built-for-purpose, it involves a fair bit of personalisation.
> > > Services like readwise.io attack a slightly different problem from a
> > > different angle (helping learn by repetition etc).
> > >
> > > I was wondering what you have found useful in solving similar problems
> on
> > > your end.
> > >
> > > As I love to hack code, I have been working on a solution for the last
> few
> > > weeks but it is far from perfect or complete. Before I go further down
> this
> > > rabbit hole, I thought it makes sense to try and understand if there
> are
> > > existing solutions out there that works for you?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Srijith
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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